In thiss episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and co-host Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) dive deep into the importance of discovering your “why” in your music lesson business. They discuss how to find your why, articulate it, and use it to fuel your passion and drive. Whether you’re a music instructor or a studio owner, understanding your why can help you stay motivated, connect with your students, and build a successful and fulfilling music school.
John and Mandy share personal stories, including the transformative power of group music-making experiences and the unique role music plays in connecting people. They also offer practical advice on how to uncover your why by reflecting on meaningful experiences and asking others for feedback.
In this episode:
- Discovering your Why in your lesson studio
- How your own Why becomes contagious and attracts students, families, and employees
- Using your Why to connect with students and families
- How personal stories can uncover your purpose
- Ways to use your Why in your marketing and studio culture
For additional resources or to connect with us, visit RockSchoolProprietor.com.
Episode Transcript:
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On today’s episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast, we discuss the importance
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of the why, your why, in your music lesson business.
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How to find it, and maybe more importantly, how to use it.
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Music.
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Your why and your passion is also contagious. If you’re able to articulate it
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and live it and show it, it becomes contagious.
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Oh, well, we’ve tried sports, and sports aren’t really their thing.
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We’ve tried other activities.
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I just want my kid to find their people. There’s something that we’re doing
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with our rock band program that is going to allow the kids to find their people.
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Music is the closest thing to magic.
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Welcome to Rock School Proprietor Podcast. I’m John Kozicki and joining me again
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is my co-host Mandy York.
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Hi Mandy. Hey John. Hey, how’s it going?
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It’s going well. We’re back on morning recording. I’m feeling refreshed.
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I’m feeling good. Yes, morning recordings. I like it.
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And we’re going to talk about something that I am like incredibly passionate about.
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I know you’re passionate about your why.
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Why you do what you do. why you
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run music together program why i
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run my rock school and why
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that is important i think for anyone who
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is in our line of work because it’s
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certainly not the richest right it’s not the it’s not the lifestyle and but
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there are like there are tons i mean i know i’ve experienced tons of benefits
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from running my music school being my being self-employed my own boss.
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And I think we can get into that stuff, too. But to kind of get it started,
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you know, I’ve had conversations with other music teachers and studio owners
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and asked, maybe not pointedly, hey, why do you do this?
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You know, but the conversation comes around to why.
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The common answer I hear is something like, I love music and I want to help
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others find their love of music.
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Does that surprise you? No. No.
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I mean, I hear that. I think it’s pretty generic, right?
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I think their answer truly is deeper than that.
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Yeah. And I guess maybe before I explored my why, that might have been similar to my answer.
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Yeah. Paired with I never really wanted to have a boss anymore.
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So those were kind of like the two things. But yeah, is that really a why?
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Or is that a what phrased as
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a why if that makes sense yeah i see
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what you’re saying yeah for sure and i i
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think one we’ve talked about simon cynic
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is and this i think i’m going to talk a lot about simon
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cynic in this podcast because i’ve read his
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book start with why and it was a big
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one for me his messaging really resonates
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with me and i think i
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even mentioned this on one of our earlier episodes one of his quotes is and
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this is totally true for me your business will change when you stop talking
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about what you do and how you do it and start talking about what you believe and that’s your why.
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So I think I love music and I want to help others find their love of music.
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I think that’s a what just phrased as a why.
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Sure. That makes sense. Yeah. I, and when I, to me, when I hear I love music,
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so I want to help others find their love of music.
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I loved music. So I wanted I wanted to make music. I wanted to perform music, right?
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So that love of music isn’t what drove me to be a teacher, actually,
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initially. That did come later.
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My passion and motivation for teaching grew from life circumstances,
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really, and learning and growing as a person.
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But initially, my love of music wanted me to perform it, do it. Yeah.
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Yeah. So in you saying that.
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And in all fairness, and I mean, I honestly suggest like if someone has a hard
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time articulating their why or finding their why,
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those two books, Simon Sinek has two books, Start With Why and Find Your Why.
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Those are great resources.
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But part of it is it’s hard to articulate why you do something.
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And it’s hard to articulate because
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why we do things is really
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wrapped up in our emotions and how do
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you just like really how do you describe those feelings
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how do you describe those emotions that you get from a
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sense of maybe accomplishment in
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in teaching how do you get to those emotions
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and describe them from the sense of like joy
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that you get from the work that you
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do and seeing that from in others in like parents and students like how do you
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express that in words it’s hard yeah yeah for sure and i think when we are being
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specific about music Music expresses without words.
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Right. So, yeah, of course it’s hard to articulate what is so important about
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music or what we feel about music because it crosses language and cultures,
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all those different borders.
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So it does take a minute and some thoughtfulness to articulate those feelings
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and drives that music gives us. Yeah.
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And when you said you loved music and you wanted to play music,
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you wanted to make music, could you, I mean, maybe you can now,
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but like when you realized that, could you articulate why?
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Why you wanted to do that? that right those
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and especially as a young person it’s
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even harder to find those words but it was a feeling the
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feels it was like as my daughter says
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the feels or i think the ick the ick that’s a negative um but yeah it gives
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you the feels how do you describe the feels it’s hard and so yeah so what we’re
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going to talk about today we’re going to talk about the importance of why i’ve
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got some Some little tips.
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And again, most of this I lifted from Simon Sinek.
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So this is not all my original thought, but how to find your why,
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how to use your why in your music school.
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So, I think I’m going to get into the reasons I think it is important to explore
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your why and learn how to articulate it.
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And we’ve kind of been bouncing around this a little bit already,
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but your why is really what fuels your motivation and your drive.
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Right? Like you said, you loved music. You wanted to make music.
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Maybe you couldn’t articulate why, but you knew that that’s what was driving
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you to learn more and practice your craft and like practice and just go yourself out there.
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Yeah yeah i can say personally
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again we talked about you know we’re
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not we’re not in in this business for the
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the lavish lifestyle and the money because it’s you know it’s like we work hard
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so that we can make a living but i think what comes with that is as a business
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owner as a music school owner sometimes things get hard you have a lot of responsibilities.
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And you are the one who ultimately has to make sure the things get done and that sucks sometimes.
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It all comes down to you right yeah i don’t want to do payroll ever you know
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when i have to do payroll i don’t want to like talk with my accountant i don’t
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want to like in a whole list of things that I don’t want to do.
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But it sort of comes with the territory. And when I’m like, when I’m feeling
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the ick, as my daughter says, about running my business,
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it’s important that I remember like my why. Right.
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And even as simple as going back to like that kind of half joking,
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half true why that I mentioned, like I never wanted to have another boss again.
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I didn’t want to answer to someone. on. Yeah.
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So those are the things that kind of help push me through, help me stay motivated
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when things aren’t so fun.
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It serves as a little reminder, right? Yeah, it does.
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And I think, and I experienced this, the burnout, right? And everybody does
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regardless of, you know, what career you’re in.
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Yeah. But I, you know, there’s some semesters I’m teaching a lot and that’s hard to juggle.
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So many hours of teaching plus the administrative side of things.
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And I think my longest break usually comes around Christmas,
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just the way we structure our schedule and our semesters.
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So I usually get at least two to three weeks off or at least a lighter load
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of classes during that time.
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And I feel this just about every year. You’re so burned out.
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And not to mention with everything else that’s going on in your personal life
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over the holidays, right? Right.
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But I come back in January after having my longest break from teaching and I
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get the feels, you know, it’s like, oh, I’m so glad to be back.
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You know, this is this is why I do this, that I love being in the classroom
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and teaching and working with my teachers and running this the school, the studio. Yeah.
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And you can’t say why the feels you I know you’re big on authenticity. Yeah.
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And and this leads into another reason why I think it’s so important.
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To be able to articulate your why and understand and connect with what your
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why is, it’s so that we attract others who believe what we believe, right?
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You’re going to attract students who are also believing what you believe.
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You’re going to attract parents and families.
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You’re going to attract employees, other instructors, all of those people.
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When you are able to articulate your why and connect with your why,
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you are going to attract that.
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And that’s, again, that’s what you need around you to make your business successful.
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I think additionally, you’ll attract that client, that employee,
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but your why and your passion is also contagious.
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If you’re able to articulate it and live it and show it, it becomes contagious, right?
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Right. And exciting for your employees and the students. Yeah.
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Again, Simon Sinek, stop talking
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about what you do and how you do it and talk about what you believe.
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And that’s what you just said is exactly why it’s important to talk about your why.
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Why it’s important to talk about what you believe because it’s contagious.
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Yeah. You’re attracting like-minded individuals.
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They’re going to be happy to be around you. You’re going to,
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like, I think it’s in second grade, my kids were like, that fills my bucket, right?
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Yeah, yeah. Like, they’re going to fill your bucket. You’re going to fill their bucket.
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Yeah. It’s a circle.
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Mm-hmm. Absolutely.
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Right. So doing the work to identify your own why is hard.
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It’ll make it easier for you to identify the whys of your students if you do the work.
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This is another reason why I think it’s important.
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If you do that work on yourself and say, okay, well, why do I do this?
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What do I love about teaching? What do I love about running my business?
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What do I love about music? music.
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That’s going to help you to connect with students when they start to have a tough time,
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when they hit those plateaus and they’re like, oh, I feel like I’m not getting
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any better, or this part is really hard, or I don’t want to do this anymore
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because it’s too challenging.
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Right. And we’ve talked about how we’re always in this weird relationship between
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the student who has to do all the work and the parent who’s paying for the lessons.
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And then if they see that, right, they can be like, oh, my kid doesn’t like this anymore.
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And the instructor who feels that pressure from both sides, if you understand
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how to connect with your why, well, then you can look for that in your students.
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So when little Tommy is like, oh, I don’t want to do this. It’s hard.
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Well, then you step in and you say like, okay, well, let’s not do this for a
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second. What do you love about music?
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What do you love about playing music? Let’s do that instead right now.
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And that’s going to change their frame of mind.
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And I mean, we know frame of mind is going to have an impact on how we approach a task.
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So they’re in a better frame of mind. They can feel like it’s less important that they’re stuck.
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When they feel like it’s less important that they’re stuck, then they can proceed
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and try and overcome that obstacle. So, that’s like a long path around for why
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it’s important to understand your why, but there’s benefits all over the place.
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Yeah, I love that relating it to your students for sure.
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And I think about that in my space where it’s kind of a parent education piece, right?
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Like you said, that disconnect between the student that’s having a rough time
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and the parent thinking, oh, they don’t like this anymore. more.
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No, we got to educate the parent that they’re stuck, but you just have to dig
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deeper and find that inspiration, right? And share your stories.
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That helps. Anecdotes.
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Anecdotes are always really inspirational, educational, helpful in that way.
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So speaking of that, speaking of sharing your stories, what about you?
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How did, I guess, how did you find your why or how
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how were you able to articulate it and maybe even
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what is your why right i remember but i’m i’m here
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for the story okay all right oh
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gosh there’s so much so i think like well and i’ll say as you said this is so
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much that you can have more than one why there are there are tons and i think
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as you you start to find more wise as you look for them yes oh yeah absolutely i agree.
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Like I said earlier, music expresses without words. You know,
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it transcends all boundaries.
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So thinking about music, like why music? That’s kind of where my mind is right now. Like why music?
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It’s hard to put into words. And I have a mentor that always says music is the
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closest thing to magic, right? I totally agree.
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Yes. Music is the closest thing to magic. How do we describe that?
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We talked about it’s a feeling. Yeah. The feels.
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Like your daughter says. But I also think about it as a collection of experiences, right?
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And going back to your very early years.
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So remembering the feeling of a lullaby as a child.
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And I was fortunate enough, I grew up in a house with lots of music.
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My dad sang, He played guitar. So I was making music from an early age,
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getting into my more formal music experiences.
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On a previous episode, I talked about middle school band.
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The first time I had that group music making experience, right?
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That gave me the feels, like very specific butterfly, my kids say flip tummy,
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flip tummy feels, you know, like that feeling, making music as a group.
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And then the high school choir experiences, working together on a stage,
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putting on a musical performance with an orchestra in the pit,
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singing, dancing, all of that.
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That in college, I was able to perform with large groups on,
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you know, like on the Grand Rapids Symphony Stage, right?
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We did like Carmina Burana and Belshazzar’s Feast and large works that just
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immerse you in music, right?
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From the percussion to the huge choir, the strings, the conductor up front.
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Like, these are some of my most memorable experiences growing up and studying music.
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And I think notably, as I’m thinking about these, they are group music-making experiences.
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Yes. Yes. Something happens when you make music together in a group with people.
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I mean, I have plenty of amazing solo experiences. I did get to sing solo with
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an orchestra behind me and all those fun things.
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But those group music-making experiences are life-giving.
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They transcend.
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It’s unbelievable. Why would we not want anyone? Why would we not want everyone
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to have those kind of experiences?
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I’m going to keep going with one more. Okay. And then as…
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So I started as a young child. And then when I was pregnant with my first daughter,
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I was hired to solo for a concert.
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We did 4A’s Requiem on a 9-11 anniversary.
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Gosh, I can’t remember which one. It was a 9-11 anniversary. We did this Requiem.
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And the P.A. Yezu movement is solo, soprano solo. So it was me, mostly harp.
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On the 9-11 anniversary, P.A. Yezu is the, you know, grant them peace,
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is the Latin translation, basically, grant them peace, give them rest, give them rest.
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I’m carrying my first child. I’m remembering this tragedy, you know,
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all these people together, you know, not just the musicians,
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but the audience all here in remembrance towards the thing.
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I mean, holy cow, musical experiences are out of this world.
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Again, transcend, I don’t know what else to call it.
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So I think when, maybe I’m giving advice here, when you are trying to find that why,
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you’re really collecting all of these experiences and remembering how they made you feel. Yes.
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Yeah. Such a wide range of emotions, right?
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Joy, sadness, remembrance, anger.
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We use music to express all of the human emotions.
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So anyway i think that’s
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what that’s a big takeaway for me is collecting these experiences thinking about
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how they made you feel maybe why they made you feel this way and understanding
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that group group music making is is something really really special.
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That’s why I’m a musician, I think. Yeah. And stop.
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And I think you and I have discussed this before.
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Maybe, I don’t think we’ve recorded it, but your experience on that 9-11 performance,
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that to me, and you saying that your mentor said that music is magic.
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I believe that. And the way that I, I suppose I came to that realization,
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because your whole life you think like, oh, you hear when you talk about music,
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oh, music connects people.
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And yeah, music’s fun, you know, but like the depth of that, how it hits you.
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And you articulated it really well, how I like to think about it,
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again, because rock school guy, right?
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But I think about being at a concert, maybe like a big arena show, right?
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And you’ve got tens of thousands of people in that arena, all experiencing the
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exact same thing at the exact same moment.
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From the people in the crowd to the musicians in the band to the sound engineer or whoever it is,
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all experiencing that exact same thing in that exact same moment.
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And you can’t hold it.
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You can’t see it. But you feel it.
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That’s magic, right? Like what else in the world does that?
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What else in the world can connect people like that? And it’s so powerful.
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And it can’t be recreated. I mean, I think, sorry, just you talking about that
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moment, like this piece of music, this song, these players, like it,
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It’s this is unique. It’s a unique experience. That’s what I’m getting at.
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Right. Yeah. You can’t recreate it. You can do it again.
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You can do it. And it’ll be different. Slightly different experience.
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Yeah. Yeah. And that’s amazing.
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But you’re right. It only exists in that moment.
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And, you know, that kind of trails into one of my whys.
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And like one of my whys. And, you know, I’ve talked about my my piano lesson
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experience as a child and how it just wasn’t it wasn’t good.
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And one of my whys is, and for like running a rock school, for even talking
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about this stuff on this podcast,
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is I feel strongly that while private lessons are great for learning and understanding
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what you can do with music,
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oftentimes they fall short in taking that next step.
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And either teaching students how
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to do what we just talked about how impactful
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music can be and what
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kind of power that the or what kind of impact people can have playing music
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good or bad like whatever skill level right and i think private lessons oftentimes
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fall short in that And that’s part of why I run a rock school.
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So quick story. I’ve got a couple of stories to share.
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One of them was kind of an early why and discovery for me.
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And this goes back to when I got my first guitar.
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My parents, my mom bought me my first guitar on a Friday after school.
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And by Monday, three days later in school, I was already forming my own band, my first band.
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I didn’t know how to play my guitar, but I
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was talking with friends all right I got a guitar who’s going
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to be our drummer who’s going to be our bass player who’s going to be our
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singer and I was starting my band and I did not
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know how to play the guitar now I know that for me and in that moment my why
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my why for even getting the guitar was I wanted to be in a band right forget
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about all the other stuff like details like Like learning how to play guitar?
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Okay, minor details. I’ll make it up as I go.
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But how that’s informed what I do now is I know that not every kid sees that path.
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I know that not all parents understand how their kid can start to make music
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with other people, right?
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Yeah, they know that private lessons exist, but do they know how to take that other step?
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Do they know how to connect those dots? not everyone
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does and that’s that’s my why that’s what
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i’m here for i’m i’m here to help you connect those dots to take that knowledge
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that you have and embrace it and use it and have fun with it and like make other
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people get other people involved in that experience whether that’s other people
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that you’re playing with or other people that you’re performing for or listening to
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whatever. That’s one of my whys.
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Starting a band without any knowledge whatsoever of playing guitar.
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So that’s one of my whys. Now, the other one, the other story that I have is
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a bit deeper and a bit, I mean,
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I view that first one as kind of like, oh, that’s the fun one, right?
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But this This other one that I have, my son, as you know, Mandy,
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my son is neurodivergent.
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And when my wife and I kind of started on that path to understanding what this means,
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there was a lot of exploring to understanding how he learns,
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how he connects with people, how he’s going to make friends.
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There’s a lot of looking at and understanding what are some common personality
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traits of kids on the spectrum or kids with ADHD or other neurodivergent kids.
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So in exploring that with my own kid, and then I started to see some of those
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traits in other kids at the rock school, right?
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I started, like, I didn’t know.
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I didn’t know who was ADHD or who was on the spectrum or whatever,
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but I started recognizing some of those traits with other kids.
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And I would have conversations with parents, and they would mention little things here and there, right?
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That I’d like, oh, that sounds familiar.
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Or they’d be describing their kids and
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saying like oh well we’ve tried sports and sports aren’t really their thing
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we’ve tried other activities i just want my kid to find their people and and
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that was like the big one for me right that was the one where i was like whoa whoa,
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there’s something that we’re doing here that is going to allow these quirky
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kids or like these kids that are maybe like slightly misunderstood by kids on
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the soccer field or whatever.
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There’s something that we’re doing with our rock band
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program that is going to allow the the kids to find their people they’re going
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to be able then maybe not like overtly maybe not in a conscious obvious way
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but these kids who are into music these kids who.
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Maybe like to listen to music, obsess over certain aspects of it, or whatever.
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Maybe they have intense focus for short bursts of time, and then they’re off the walls, whatever.
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All of these kids, we’ve got a place for them, right?
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Because if we put them in a room with other kids who just like music,
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then they get to talk to these kids who also like music.
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And then they start to form friendships and they start to build relationships
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with other kids who are into this thing that not everyone’s into, you know?
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So that realization that my own kid and him being neurodivergent and how am
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I going to help him navigate through the world, all of a sudden I saw, wait,
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there’s all these other kids that are like my kid and they want to do music.
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And I can do more for them, not just to teach them music,
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but to like again help them
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find their people like allow their
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parents to rest a little bit easier because they’re finding their
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people right yeah give them the
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tools to potentially like in the future recognize who those other people who
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are like who like music and they can talk to those people right so there’s again
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that’s that’s a big one that was a big like huge understanding of my why,
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why, and why what I do is so important.
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Yes. I love that. That is awesome. You’re right. Music is for everyone.
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Everyone. Period. And you create a safe space for that. That’s awesome.
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We say that in Music Together, too. Music is for everyone.
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We welcome everyone into the classroom. room.
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And I mean, like I’ve said before, you know, we let the kids be kids in the room.
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We’re not making them sit in a circle and do what we’re doing.
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They explore music in their own way.
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And I guess kind of similar to your story, I’ll never forget really early on,
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I had a mom come up to me after class and like she was almost in tears because
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she was like, you know, we’ve been asked to leave library story time before.
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This is so great that like my kid can just be my kid here.
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Same thing you’re talking about, just a different age, you know,
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different circumstances.
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But of course they can be here. We’re making music.
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You know, it’s a safe space. I love that. Yes. Very good. Yeah.
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All right. So how do people, how do other music instructors,
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how do music lesson business owners, how do they begin to discover their why?
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I’ve got, I mean, I think like you mentioned some great tactics,
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which are like really just start to get in tune with those things that give you the feels, right?
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Yeah. All those things that give you the feels and think about those.
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What aspect of when those feelings were brought up, what aspects of those things,
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those experiences resonate with you and how do you articulate them to others?
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Yeah. I mean, personally, going through this on my own, yeah,
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I think about those experiences.
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Experiences and I guess I have to say those were
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all very like personal Mandy experiences right
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about me what music means to me and why I like music why I love playing music
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my motivation and passion to start teaching came later and I mentioned it was
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you know life experiences I I was older. I had kids. We moved.
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I was introduced to this program that really blew me away as far as,
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you know, how we were teaching early children music arena I had no idea, you know, about.
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So I dug in and found my why there. Think about those things. And then…
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Write them down. I don’t know. I want to put music making back in the home.
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Okay. I want families making music with their young children.
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I want kids growing up to know that they are musical.
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I want healthy, big arts programs in our schools and at Michigan Rock School.
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And and i want
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to see the next generation of creators and
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musicians and composers and patrons right like we our goal here john is not
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like to to make the next best american idol opera singer no first chair violin
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that’s not our goal we that’s great that all of those things are They’re good.
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But we also need the patrons.
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We need people that support, that appreciate these arts. Right.
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We need some doctors and CEOs and lawyers to to fund our symphonies and support
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the programs, you know, and be in the audience and appreciate music.
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So who are those doctors and CEOs and lawyers?
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Well, first, they’re toddlers whose parents had the wherewithal to say,
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you know what, I’m going to put them in this music together class.
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Who knows what’s going to happen, but it seems like a good idea when they’re 18 months old. Right.
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Right. So that, I mean, this is the way I’m organizing my list right now is
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that’s where it started.
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And all of those things are important to me because music is an important part
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of the human experience.
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I think it’s our right. We’re born with it.
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Everyone deserves to know and be moved by music in that way.
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And then I think we’re better people when we know music. Music makes us more
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empathetic, right? Right.
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And music has the power to emotionally, morally and, you know,
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culturally affect our society.
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So from putting music back in the home to changing the world.
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Yeah. Is that too big? Is that too much?
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No, it’s, you know, it’s these small incremental changes that are going to make
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a difference. You know, people always think that it’s got to be this big change and it’s not.
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It’s like the little things that make the change.
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When I do read fiction, I’m a huge fan of Kurt Vonnegut.
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I’m going to butcher this quote because I don’t remember it,
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but he’s got this quote about like, why go into the arts?
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Why study the arts? Because it’s, you know, it’s what it’s going to do.
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It’s going to make you more human.
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It’s gonna it’s gonna allow you to connect with other people and and that’s
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the reason to go into the arts that’s it.
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But you have an appreciation for the arts, right? Yes.
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Because again, don’t we want our doctor to be very human, right?
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They don’t need to go into it.
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But just to have an appreciation, to have the exposure, to know that a piece
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of you, not your career, not everything you do, but a piece of you understands, appreciates music.
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Right. And I’ll say this, for those of us, music instructors,
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studio owners who are feeling the ick right now, feeling the burnout,
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know that you are making a difference.
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Like whether you know it right now or not, if you’re in the trenches,
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you’re helping give other people the feels, right?
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You are facilitating all of this. So that is super important. Important.
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My advice on how to begin to discover your why.
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If you read, if you like books, I mentioned Simon Sinek’s Start With Why,
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Find Your Why, or the audiobooks.
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I listen to audiobooks in the morning when I walk as well. Well,
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if you want a quicker path, Simon Sinek’s got this thing on his website.
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It’s called the Friends Exercise.
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And really what it is, is it involves asking your friends, like,
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why do you like me? Why are we friends?
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And that’s kind of a jumping off point to start to explore and find these things
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that are hard to describe because they involve feelings. finding those things
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about you that will start to uncover what your why is.
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Now, for us, again, music instructors, studio owners, professionally,
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I would say, ask three people that you are close with.
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Maybe that’s parents in your studio or a student. maybe it’s staff members,
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maybe it’s former students.
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Ask them why they liked working with you.
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Their answers are going to start to bring up the personality traits and what
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it is about you that inspires them or inspired them.
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And then you explore, like, okay, where, when, how, what were the events in
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your life that helped you to develop those qualities?
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So, you know, you’re bouncing it off someone else. Hey, what’s good about me?
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And they say, like, oh, well, this is good about you. You really helped me connect
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with these other people, right, in music.
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And then you say, well, wait, what was it in my life that taught me how to connect
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with other people around music?
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Oh, it was when I was 14 years old and I got my first guitar and started my band three days later.
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You know, that’s like, those are the things that are going to help you to uncover your why.
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Now how do we use that why once we
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discover it i think you had mentioned mandy
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start talking about start telling these stories yeah start sharing these experiences
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yeah sharing the experiences i talk about parent education a lot in my in my
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studio right and i like become the authority on
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it too like say like you should do
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yeah we yeah we believe this or i
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like to say we know we know
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all children are musical right tell
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them that we know all children are musical which means all people are musical
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right you know like they they think that adults are not oh i can’t sing well
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you just didn’t nurture that piece of you or you just set your standards too high Exactly. Exactly.
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So in that way, you’re appealing to the sense, the parent’s sense of what is
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best for their kids, right? We know all children are musical.
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And when you start, I congratulate my kids, my parents sometimes,
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like, you are amazing for bringing your kids in at such a young age to start their music education.
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This is a gift you’re giving them that will never go away.
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Good job, parents, you know? know yeah so i
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mean that’s that’s a really great practical way you can use it
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and then sharing the experiences i share
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research sometimes you know because we know music learning supports all other
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learning in the early years also the language development the social emotional
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stuff so i share that kind of thing so for me it’s in my world i i feel like
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i’m trying to educate parents on why this is important. What about you?
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Well, so I, you know, I think I started this, this episode with that statement.
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We want to help you discover your love of music.
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And I say, stop, stop saying that, right?
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Instead, start writing statements about what you believe.
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And you had mentioned this, we believe music and then go from there.
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Like use those experiences, use your whys to frame a message that says,
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we believe music does this. We believe…
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Playing music with other people will lead to this.
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And again, this is that Simon Sinek message.
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Stop talking about what you do and how you do it. Start talking about what you believe.
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I know my business changed when I kind of embraced that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It really sets the tone and the culture for your studio.
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Yeah. I love it. So with that, I think let’s wrap it up.
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Let’s wrap up. This was a, this was a good one. I liked this.
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I really did too. I love talking about this stuff.
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I felt, I felt a little sticky sappy, but like, it’s the feels.
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Oh, but that’s so important. It’s the feels. Yeah.
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It’s the feels. It’s the feels.
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Again, Mandy, thank you for this great episode of Rock School Proprietor Podcast.
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We’ll see you next time. Sounds great. Thanks, John.
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If you have topic suggestions or questions or.
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Music.
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As always, we only ask that in return, you pay it forward.
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