John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) each share the three technologies they rely on to run their music studios more smoothly. The cover platforms from project management and scheduling to email marketing and team communication. They discuss tools like Trello, ActiveCampaign, Acuity/Squarespace scheduling, Slack, ClickSend, Canva, and payment processors, plus tips on choosing the right features and avoiding shiny-object overload.
Many of these platforms offer free or low-cost options that work well for most studios, and the episode focuses on practical integrations that save time and reduce admin work so teachers can focus on teaching and growing their studios.
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Transcript:
John Kozicki (00:01.385)
Welcome to Rock School, a proprietor podcast. My name is Jon Kozicki.
Mandy York (00:05.537)
And I’m Mandi York.
John Kozicki (00:08.043)
Mandy, we did an episode not too long ago. It was a Q &A episode and one of the questions we got was about studio management software and which platform, which platform’s best. we talked about a number of them, but it got me thinking about other software that I use in my studio and which software
I feel like is so important to how we run the day to day of the studio that I’m not sure I could go without at this point. And I thought, man, what if we did an episode, we each chose our top three technologies that we use in our studios to run our studios and share those with listeners.
Mandy York (00:48.269)
yeah.
Mandy York (01:04.268)
sounds great. I’m yeah, I’m totally into this. I have more than three favorites, but I’ll pick my top three. Yeah.
John Kozicki (01:08.405)
And I haven’t.
John Kozicki (01:12.885)
Okay, I haven’t shared which three are on my list and you have not shared which three are on your list. So I definitely, I’m interested to see what functions these platforms serve for our individual studios. Do you wanna go, we each share one back and forth or should I? Okay, all right. Okay.
Mandy York (01:27.789)
Yes.
Mandy York (01:33.1)
Yeah, back and forth. Yeah, that sounds good.
John Kozicki (01:40.545)
I don’t know if these are in any particular order, but just these were the three that I thought like, and I originally I was thinking about my studio management software, but I took that off the table because we already talked about that a little bit. So I’m to talk about other software that I use in my studio that I feel like is so important to run the day to day. Number one is Trello.
Are you familiar with Trello?
Mandy York (02:11.904)
I am, yeah, I don’t use it, but I’m familiar with it.
John Kozicki (02:14.901)
Okay, we’ve been using Trello, man, at this point.
The majority of years that Michigan Rock School has been open, we’ve been using Trello. It’s a project management software.
And the primary uses for us is really a lot of our administrative functions. So my admin, who is awesome, she kind of jokes like she lives and dies by Trello. She’s in Trello all the time. So we use Trello to track student onboarding and all the steps that go along with that. So we have checklists built into
the little Trello cards and it allows us to check off each task, because there’s a lot of tasks that go along with new student onboarding. So we don’t wanna miss any of them. So we use it for onboarding and checklist to track all that. Then new student follow-up. If a student is leaving the studio, very similarly, we have other checklists and Trello cards that help us to…
track all of that so we’re not missing anything. Instructors that need time off, we’ve got Trello processes for that. Basically, all of our little processes that we repeat often, we use Trello to manage all of that.
Mandy York (03:53.048)
Yeah. Nice. We…
John Kozicki (03:53.577)
Do you have anything similar? Or am I exposing your list of software?
Mandy York (04:00.046)
No, no, that sounds amazing. We are not as sophisticated. I think with just me and my admin with like with project We don’t use anything We email we email all this stuff, you know lists and I think some of the softwares that I use Prompt actions, you know what I mean?
John Kozicki (04:08.371)
okay.
John Kozicki (04:17.537)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (04:29.386)
Yeah, gotcha.
Mandy York (04:29.59)
So if somebody, yeah. So I don’t use Trello or any, no, we email, we keep in touch that way. We work, I work side by side with my admin too, which I think is fun. I haven’t always done that with other admin. We do, we spend at least one day a week at the same time in the studio working together. So that’s how we touched base on projects and what’s happening. Yeah, not as sophisticated as Trello.
John Kozicki (04:38.924)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (04:53.868)
Okay. Well, you know, I don’t think it’s that sophisticated. some of these, some of these that I’m going to list are, you know, with a lot of these softwares, you’ve got, you’ve got like the paid version and the free version and the free version, you can only use certain features. We’ve been using the free version of Trello for years. And, and there’s
Mandy York (05:13.048)
Yeah.
Mandy York (05:21.036)
That’s good to know. Okay.
John Kozicki (05:23.242)
Yeah, so it doesn’t cost us anything. We have all our processes set up. And yeah, there are other features that you get with the paid version. it seems like every year or so I look at those other features and I think, OK, would this improve how we do things? And I mean, with Trello, it’s of not so much. We’ve got a good system with it. It doesn’t cost us anything.
It’s been working, been working great.
Mandy York (05:55.555)
That’s cool. That’s a great tip. think like a lot of softwares, you know, there’s so many things out there and you, you can just get distracted.
John Kozicki (06:04.694)
By the way, is it software plural or software’s plural? Because I feel like we’re gonna say this word a lot and I’m like, I don’t know if it’s software or softwares. Anyway. Okay.
Mandy York (06:10.574)
Ha ha!
Mandy York (06:17.71)
I don’t think there’s an S. I don’t think there’s an S. That’s just what I’m going to say. There are so, there’s so much software out there. Okay. Okay. And you can get really distracted, you know, by all of the shiny things that the, that the programs can do. Right. And I think whenever you’re setting up systems, you have to like truly honestly analyze what you need and what you’re going to use.
John Kozicki (06:26.494)
Yeah, there you go.
John Kozicki (06:33.76)
Mmm.
Yes.
John Kozicki (06:45.932)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (06:47.054)
Cause that’s how I set, I’m set up too. I use the free version of some things, some things I buy the paid versions and we, you know, use every piece of it and love it. But that’s, that’s my pro tip when you’re choosing these things, when you’re choosing.
John Kozicki (06:59.168)
Yeah, that’s such a
Such a great point about the Shiny objects. I’m much better at this. I remember years and years ago when I was trying to implement more software to streamline things. I did fall victim to the Shiny object syndrome, right? Where every little new thing that this piece of software would do or this piece of software would do, I would think like, my gosh, that would
that would be so cool if we did that and like it would solve this problem. But what I realized over time is that oftentimes it was just like one specific problem that it was solving. but then it would, you know, then it didn’t necessarily do these other things. So or I would spend all this time playing around with the free version thinking I was going to solve all these problems and realize like, man, I don’t I don’t know. I think I just wasted a bunch of time.
Mandy York (08:02.978)
Yeah, you can really go down the rabbit hole with these. Yeah, for sure. Well, let me tell you mine. Let, cause I’m going to kind of piggyback off of this too. Well, my first thing is my website. It’s just, I use Squarespace. I love Squarespace. My website is really important to me. because it’s, it’s what clients first see. It’s what’s out there when people are searching, but I love my,
John Kozicki (08:06.175)
Yeah.
All right, so yeah, why don’t you share your first one?
John Kozicki (08:15.925)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (08:32.32)
my website because it connects with all of my other softwares so well. I said softwares. Whatever, whatever. Because it connects so well with all those other programs that I use. And just for example, like text messaging, right? That’s usually like an add-on.
John Kozicki (08:42.197)
Hahaha
John Kozicki (08:58.475)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (09:00.632)
for a lot of things and that’s my shiny object. Like, man, it would be really nice to just get inside my scheduler or my website, which also holds this information and click to send a reminder that, you know, so-and-so is sick today and we have to cancel classes. But I just don’t do it enough to spend, I don’t even know if I’ve seen them for 20.
John Kozicki (09:18.357)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mandy York (09:28.75)
$20 a month. I feel like they’re usually $30 a month for that service. And it’s just, it just doesn’t seem right to me. So I have a, I was so excited when I found this, I, it’s called click send. I believe click send. It’s a pay as you go. It’s awesome. I can create groups within it. Um, this isn’t on my top three, but here I am talking about click send, whatever click send it. Um, it solved my problem.
John Kozicki (09:30.389)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (09:42.795)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (09:50.827)
No, this is awesome.
Mandy York (09:56.929)
And I’m just paying as I go. Like, I load 20 bucks into this thing at a time. Now, it takes a little extra work. Every semester, which my semesters are 10 weeks long or so, my admin has to extract the classes from the scheduler and then export them and then import them into Clicksend. OK, so that is, that’s time, right? But really think about
It’s not a difficult process. It’s an export and import. How much are you paying your admin per hour? It it’s, and you do it once and then it’s there. So instead of succumbing to that shiny object within the programs that I already have and adding to my monthly fees for those things, you know, I don’t cancel classes that often. Click send. I’m going to throw that out there for everybody. That’s a good one. I like that one.
John Kozicki (10:34.517)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (10:47.275)
That’s a great little tip, the pay as you go texting. Nice. Okay.
Mandy York (10:53.954)
Yeah, because I hadn’t seen that anywhere else. Anyway, website is my favorite because I keep it really up to date with photos. it’s what the, it’s what the people see and my business is set up as really a, a self-serve registration process. So it’s, it’s gotta be really user friendly. I want my families to come in, see the schedule, sign up for what they want. and then, my.
John Kozicki (11:10.763)
Yeah
Mandy York (11:23.33)
Like my bulk emailing is something that I use pretty frequently. We call them email blasts, know, newsletters, whatever that’s integrated with my, with my website. So my website is constantly collecting data. If someone completes a form, they’re added to that mailing list. Someone signs up for classes. It’s connected to my software. They’re added to my mailing list. So among other things that I’ll get into, but I don’t.
John Kozicki (11:27.093)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (11:34.569)
Okay.
Mandy York (11:52.687)
We’re going to go one at a time. So that’s my first one. Love the website. It connects with all of my other favorite softwares. Cool.
John Kozicki (11:54.429)
Okay. Okay.
John Kozicki (12:03.148)
Okay, so to segue into my second question for you, you had mentioned the integration with your website and when you send your email blasts. What email platform are you using for emailing?
Mandy York (12:08.45)
Yeah, sure.
Mandy York (12:16.792)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (12:23.256)
Well, I use, like I have a G Suite or whatever they’re calling it these days, Google business. So that’s what I mean, that’s what I use in the office. and then like there’s MailChimp and Constant Contact, right, for the newsletters. Prices kept going up. They just kept going up. I used some of them for a while and then Squarespace developed something and
John Kozicki (12:28.838)
okay. Yeah.
John Kozicki (12:40.875)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (12:50.168)
okay.
Mandy York (12:51.894)
And so now it’s all integrated. You know, it’s like, I’m already using the software. was, it was maybe the same, maybe a little less. Maybe they gave me like a higher cap, you know, cause they’ll give you, you know, caps on how many subscribers you can have. One thing I love about this is that like my asset library is shared. So whatever kind of assets I put up on my library, on my website, if I’m creating a, or my admin is creating a newsletter.
John Kozicki (12:54.323)
okay.
John Kozicki (13:04.236)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (13:12.876)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (13:21.686)
It shares an asset library so she can pull those images or whatever it may be and put them into the newsletters. Less like downloading, uploading. And I’m kind of into like, you know, all in one place, one bill. It’s easy.
John Kozicki (13:29.184)
Nice, okay.
Yeah, okay.
John Kozicki (13:38.537)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and so the segue is because my second platform that I kind of live and die by is ActiveCampaign. And that’s my email marketing software that I use. And CRM. And anyone who doesn’t know CRM, what is it? Relationship Management, I think? Yeah, Customer Relationship Management.
Mandy York (14:04.202)
management. Yeah.
John Kozicki (14:08.414)
Okay, I love active campaign. Paid version, think I pay, geez, I think it’s like 600 bucks annually. That’s not like in the grand scheme of things. I don’t think it’s that much. Yeah. Also integrated with our website. So when someone fills out the form on the website,
Mandy York (14:20.75)
Yes.
No.
John Kozicki (14:37.462)
They’re immediately, it’s integrated with Active Campaigns, so then we’ve got their information. I’ve got an email sequence set up so that that form triggers the first email in a sequence of a few. That also puts them in like a, what’s called a deal stage, right? So like a sales funnel. So we can track how many emails they’ve received. Where are they in this process?
If we are communicating back and forth with them, we can keep notes. If they schedule a phone call, we can keep notes. So really, really good information about all these prospective clients. And then in that process, if they decide, yep, this is for us and they’re going to sign up, well, then we just take that little contact and we slide it over to a different place in the deal stage.
and they’re dropped into our registration sequence. So then that triggers another set of emails. so that’s all just like for prospects. But then we can use that for communicating with students and like the whole deal, creating groups in our email program and tags to make sure we’re contacting the appropriate people based on what they’re interested in.
I love it. Active campaign is awesome. Yeah, I should. I should say we’re not getting paid anything for talking about these. I just realized. Yeah, yeah, right. And we’re not getting paid anything by any of these companies for talking about these these these platforms.
Mandy York (16:07.867)
campaign. Cool. Yeah, I didn’t know much about that one.
Mandy York (16:15.699)
Yeah, this is true. Yeah. If you want to pay us, let us know. But no, we’re not getting paid.
Mandy York (16:29.067)
Yes.
John Kozicki (16:29.984)
But yeah, so ActiveCampaign, that’s the email marketing software that I use. I have used MailChimp. It’s decent. not used… Constant Contact was another one that you mentioned. I mean, there’s so many. They all kind of do the same thing. ActiveCampaign is just the one that I’ve kind of chosen and I enjoy using.
Mandy York (16:46.478)
There’s so many. Yep.
Mandy York (16:54.35)
Cool. Number two, my scheduling software. This is huge for me. I use Acuity Scheduling. I think I’ve mentioned this in an episode before. And I do all group classes, right? So this is, the software is not specific for music schools, I should say, but I think a lot of salons.
John Kozicki (16:56.234)
All right, number two for you.
John Kozicki (17:06.977)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (17:22.882)
like health and wellness, yoga, stuff like that, use the software. But it works really well for group classes. I should say I picked it up in like 2015 maybe, maybe 16 and started using like a free account. That’s why I picked it. Like I was just, researched, you know, it was a free account.
John Kozicki (17:48.886)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (17:51.475)
We were smaller and it worked for me. I use a paid account now. It’s very reasonable. Again, I’ve rolled this in Squarespace bought it, bought acuity scheduling. Just by chance, I used both programs and Squarespace bought this one. So I can’t say specifically how much it is separate from the website, but it integrates really well with my website. yeah, families can go in, they can see.
John Kozicki (18:03.103)
Ha ha ha.
John Kozicki (18:16.991)
Of course.
Mandy York (18:21.112)
the schedule, like if they’re signing up for a semester, here are all the classes. This class has one spot left. This one has three, et cetera. I also have different kinds of classes, right? You need to schedule a makeup class. Here’s the makeup schedule and what’s available in those classes. I offer three types of group classes. I can differentiate them. They each look different on the page.
John Kozicki (18:40.139)
You
Mandy York (18:50.05)
which I learned was important as I started adding more offerings. People were signing up kind of for the wrong thing. I can use graphics that make it very clear. This is a baby’s class. This is a big kid class, et cetera. But it’s what all of the staff uses. we can see a week at a glance, all of our scheduling. I can add when I’m going to be off site so that
John Kozicki (18:50.367)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (18:55.979)
okay.
Mandy York (19:18.23)
My employees can see that. Mandy’s going to be off at an off-site class. The admin can click a class or two and email those specific participants that are registered for that class. I like to use it to even if I’m trying to promote something, I want to pull people that have participated in
John Kozicki (19:20.747)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (19:37.141)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (19:47.457)
A rhythm kids class. What I’m reaching out to them for doesn’t apply to anyone with tiny babies. So I can, you know, exclude those emails and, yeah. So I can see a history each, you know, like I use it as a CRM. I can see each record where what they participated in, which classes they participated in and, contact information, stuff like that. Easy to use. That’s why I love it.
John Kozicki (19:58.721)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (20:14.293)
Okay.
John Kozicki (20:17.652)
Okay, both, yeah, and integration was kind of key with both of the things that you just mentioned with your, you know, your first two, your website and your scheduling software. And you kind of worked the, the emailing in there as well. Okay, so number three for me is Slack. Do you know about Slack? Okay.
Mandy York (20:23.81)
Yes.
Mandy York (20:42.894)
yeah.
John Kozicki (20:47.084)
Slack, we, it’s funny, we, I’ve kind of have a new love of Slack as of late because it’s something that we used. I mean, we started using Slack a few years, man, maybe more than a few, maybe five years ago. And we were using it for just internal communication for our band coaches. But recently I sort of reevaluated and thought like, man, cause we,
veered away from it and I thought, man, Slack was so powerful in connecting all of us and my staff is bigger now. I mean, we’ve got 12 or 13 people on staff. So being able to communicate internally is a big challenge. Especially because, I mean, we have talked a little bit about communication in the past on previous episodes, but
Mandy York (21:41.731)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (21:42.901)
The ease of texting is great, I do feel like, like you were mentioning that you click send, you were mentioning the texting service. I feel like with my phone, sometimes I just get texts from so many places that things just get lost, right? And for me, I’m kind of one of those people where I’m like, I don’t want to get texts from anyone other than people I know.
Mandy York (22:02.114)
yeah. Yep.
John Kozicki (22:11.98)
Yeah, yeah, so I do not like to opt in to texting from like services that that I’ve used or Things I’ve purchased like I don’t want to get a text from Target, know My wife on the other hand, she’s just like whatever but so for me, I’m not into that so But I like that slack is sort of our go-to for internal communication
Mandy York (22:12.48)
I am the same way. Totally. Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (22:28.206)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (22:41.612)
The big, big thing we use it for is still communication between our instructors. So when, when I’ve got a band coach in a, in a band rehearsal with a group of, you know, say six kids and they’re working on whatever they’re supposed to work on for, for that week. Well, when they come out of there, each one of those kids has something that they need to focus on.
and be prepared for the next week.
If we leave it to just the kids to make sure they’re prepared next week, they likely won’t do it. Or if we leave it to the kids to communicate that to their private instructors, there’s a 50-50 chance making up that statistic. But if my band coaches are able to have a direct line of communication to each one of those kids’ private instructors, then they can say,
Mandy York (23:22.03)
What?
John Kozicki (23:44.917)
Hey, here’s what we worked on. We worked on this song. We’re working on the verse for next week. So make sure everyone’s ready for the verse. If any of those private instructors need clarification, like, is it in the original key that the song is recorded or are you playing in a different key? Or the voice instructor might say, yeah, I think we should change the key because it’s not quite in the singer’s range. Can we, you know, can we move it up?
a half step. All of that communication is important. But what I like that’s even better about that communication is all of the instructors who are associated with that, that group with those private with those private lesson students are seeing that conversation. So there’s no need to reiterate the information.
directly to each one of those private instructors who might need it. Everyone’s kind of privy to that conversation. So it’s sort of like this group share to enhance the experience and get everyone ready for the band rehearsals. So I’m absolutely loving Slack for that. And then we’ve also been using it for things like announcing staff meetings and we’ll say, this is when we’re doing a staff meeting. Here’s the Zoom link or whatever.
details about our concerts. We can put all that again in our Slack channel for those individual things. And then everyone’s got the info. So really liking Slack and all that information is flying around. People aren’t going to get on a Saturday afternoon when they’re like, you know, wherever they are and then forget about it by Monday, they can go back to Slack.
Mandy York (25:22.296)
Yeah.
Mandy York (25:36.92)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (25:39.18)
and look for that information.
Mandy York (25:41.698)
Yeah, I like that. That’s really important. That’s a big one for you. And I’ve wondered about that before, actually, just how, how what happens in the band rehearsal. Yeah. Translates to the private lessons. That’s great. It’s important.
John Kozicki (25:48.276)
about how we coordinate and communicate.
John Kozicki (25:54.103)
Yeah, it’s a thing. Yeah. if it doesn’t happen, like, I mean, you haven’t seen it, but you’ve seen it. There have been times when that information has not been traveling, and it definitely impacts the performance and the bands. So, yeah.
So yeah, Slack, also using the free version of Slack. We’ve been able to utilize, yeah, we’ve been able to utilize the features that we need in Slack and up to this point haven’t really needed the features that are included in the paid versions. So yeah, big fan of Slack.
Mandy York (26:23.886)
That was my next question.
Mandy York (26:39.982)
Very good. All right. It’s not that exciting, but my payment processor. I know, I know. This, I know, but it’s so important to me because, because of my like self-serve model that I have, like it all just integrates the families can.
John Kozicki (26:42.028)
All right, what’s your third one?
John Kozicki (26:47.404)
wow, wow, boring.
John Kozicki (27:01.1)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (27:07.694)
can sign up, they can pay, everything is done. just have, whenever any of these things happen, whenever someone signed up or completes the form, et cetera, we get a notification, right? I’m always, I know when things happen and I can see the schedules filling and I can, you know, I massage them here and there, like, that class is kind of full. I like to say I take the temperature of classes. Like 10 kids per class is kind of average, but.
John Kozicki (27:32.587)
Yeah.
Mandy York (27:37.431)
maybe eight of a certain kind of kid, you know, in one class, you know, or, or depending on the, the personality types or even the ages, because these groups are mixed age. If I’m, if I’m heavy on the, the baby side, I can maybe stretch it to 13 kids anyway. So there is some of that like massaging that happens, but it’s all otherwise very, very automated self-serve. And I just get the notifications in email and
John Kozicki (27:40.872)
Hahaha!
John Kozicki (27:48.543)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (27:55.084)
Yeah.
Mandy York (28:07.086)
You mentioned we’ve talked about software before on the podcast. And it’s a drag if you’re still sending individual invoices or accepting checks. It’s just too much when you’ve got 200 kids. So that’s why it made my top three, because it makes my life a lot easier.
John Kozicki (28:28.912)
So, okay, question about that, because obviously that’s important. Is there a specific payment platform that you think, like, I mean, these are all, all of these are pretty specific to the platform, but could you switch your payment processor and you’re okay? Is it just that you have it or is it something specific? Okay, gotcha.
Mandy York (28:55.534)
just that I have it. It’s just that I have it. Yeah. And I did, I actually have two payment processors. I started with PayPal 10 years ago. and I found that some people were hesitant to use it. And so I would be getting emails, you know, and then, you know, over the last 10 years, the, the software that I use has, improved. And so
John Kozicki (28:58.944)
Gotcha.
John Kozicki (29:04.78)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (29:24.406)
I can actually set up my scheduler and website with multiple payment processors and my clients can choose which one they want to use. And after I added, after I added Square, I still get payments from both. Some people use PayPal, some people use Square, but no one contacts me anymore and says like, I’d rather not do it this way. Or I’m having trouble getting into PayPal. don’t know why it was a thing that was happening.
John Kozicki (29:34.313)
interesting.
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (29:49.357)
Yeah. As an aside, think PayPal, the name, I think it’s stupid. I think it was, I think that was a mistake, but whatever. It doesn’t sound legit. Like when you’re talking about finances and like money transfers, like the word pal in the name just does not sound legitimate.
Mandy York (29:59.635)
It’s yes. Yeah, it is what it is. But so.
Mandy York (30:15.854)
I wonder where that came from. There has to be an answer to that. Since it was so boring, I’m going to throw out Canva. Since my third software was so boring, I’m going to say Canva.
John Kozicki (30:17.556)
Yeah, sure. Also not getting paid from PayPal.
John Kozicki (30:30.45)
Okay, I have a love-hate relationship. I have love-hate relationship with Canva, but okay.
Mandy York (30:35.48)
I Canva. I use the paid version and I love it. I love it. We’re really good about organizing. We have our whole brand kit in there. So no matter, it makes training so much easier when somebody new comes in. These are the colors you can use. These are like our primary logos. And I just, after 10 years, I have been using Canva for 10 years.
John Kozicki (30:52.264)
Mm-hmm. Right, right.
Mandy York (31:03.05)
with proper like organization and folders and all that. I don’t recreate the wheel anymore at all. You know, we pull up, we just pull up old projects and, you know, manipulate them to fit whatever we’re doing now. Folders full of photos. We talk about photos, how important that is. You know, I take my favorites and they’re uploaded to Canva right away so that my admin has access to them for any.
John Kozicki (31:10.742)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (31:19.788)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (31:24.362)
Mm hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (31:31.019)
Okay.
Mandy York (31:32.674)
social media, et cetera.
John Kozicki (31:34.849)
So Canva aside, I see there’s interesting themes amongst our top software platforms. Yours is integration. Like that’s the theme for yours. It’s all about integration. Mine’s communication. Yeah, isn’t that interesting? Like I didn’t even think about that in the front end, but in retrospect, yeah, your three platforms are all about integration. My three platforms are all
Mandy York (31:37.378)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (31:43.284)
Yeah, I see this.
Mandy York (31:52.238)
Communication. Yes.
John Kozicki (32:04.66)
communication.
Mandy York (32:06.958)
Yeah. I like it. Yeah. Uh huh. Well, you have more to manage. You have more people to communicate with. You’ve got, like you said, 12, 13 on your staff.
John Kozicki (32:07.786)
I don’t know what to take from that, but there you go. Yeah. Well, it could be.
John Kozicki (32:16.658)
It could, that could be it. That could be it. It’s like the necessity to communicate with more people. You need tools to communicate. Yours is keeping things streamlined and simple. So those integrations are really powerful and important. So I guess it does. Yeah. Yeah.
Mandy York (32:34.946)
I teach a lot. I don’t want to do this kind of stuff. I want to spend as little time worrying about what’s going on in the back end. I want to be in the classroom and lesson planning and I’m still excited about all those things. So balance.
John Kozicki (32:49.942)
That’s smart. That’s really smart for any of those studio owners out there who do like to teach and want to teach a lot. I think those are really great points. Final words?
Mandy York (33:05.934)
This was great. I mean, it’s great that we didn’t have any of the same answers.
John Kozicki (33:08.202)
I wouldn’t say it’s, that’s kind of interesting, yeah, that we didn’t have any of same answers. Yeah, Cool, we’ll wrap this one up then and we’ll talk next time. See you, Mandy.
Mandy York (33:13.358)
Yeah, we covered a lot here. Cool.
Mandy York (33:20.654)
Sounds good. Thanks, John.
