In this insightful episode of the Rock School Proprietor Podcast, hosts John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) discuss the importance of taking time off as small business owners, particularly in the context of running a lesson studio. They explore the anxieties and fears that often accompany taking a break, such as concerns about lost income and the responsibilities left behind. The conversation emphasizes the need for proper planning, delegation of tasks, and setting boundaries to ensure a smooth transition during time off. They also touch on cultural perspectives regarding work and vacation, highlighting the need to build time off into business practices for better work-life balance.
In this episode:
- Taking time off is essential for small business owners.
- Planning ahead can alleviate anxiety about taking time off.
- Identifying specific fears can help in managing anxiety.
- Delegating responsibilities is crucial when preparing for absence.
- Setting clear communication with staff is important.
- Cultural attitudes towards work and vacation vary significantly.
- Building time off into pricing structures can benefit business.
- Avoiding surprises for staff helps maintain a smooth operation.
- Trusting your team is vital when you’re away.
- Taking breaks makes you a better teacher.
Whether you’re a studio owner or a teaching professional, this episode offers valuable tips for protecting your well-deserved break. Listen in and learn how to truly unwind without compromising your business.
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Episode Transcript:
John Kozicki (00:01.151)
Welcome to Rock School Proprietor Podcast. My name is John Kozicki.
Mandy York (00:06.071)
and I’m Mandy York.
John Kozicki (00:08.223)
and we are talking about taking time off today. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know as a business owner, as a studio owner, small business owner, we tend to prioritize running our businesses. And a lot of times that means we put some of our needs maybe to the side. Yeah.
Mandy York (00:15.742)
much needed time off, right?
Mandy York (00:37.038)
Yep, absolutely.
John Kozicki (00:38.031)
And, and I think things like taking time off, taking a vacation, we’re in the summer, right? So chances of us taking a little time off, hopefully high, right? And you and I are both with our families about to take, I’m about to take a week off, you’re about to take a week off. So we thought, well, let’s talk about how to take a time off, how to take time off.
Mandy York (00:51.608)
Right, absolutely, yeah.
John Kozicki (01:07.791)
from our lesson businesses because we tend to not prioritize that kind of stuff. I mean, do you generally like, you prioritize Mandy or have you found yourself? Okay, let me ask you this. Have you ever decided not to take time off because you’ve thought about the amount of things that you’d have to do ahead of time just so that you could take the time off and you realized that man, that’s…
Like there’s way more to do just for me to take a day off and then you’re just like, forget it. I’m not gonna do it. Have you ever done that?
Mandy York (01:46.158)
Not exactly. I haven’t done that but I’m really good. You have yeah
John Kozicki (01:48.395)
I have. I have. Yes.
Mandy York (01:53.355)
Yeah, I have definitely like worked time off around whatever is going on at the studio though. Like that I do all the time, definitely.
John Kozicki (02:01.241)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (02:05.111)
Yeah, and you plan you you’ve planned your entire what like three months semester? Is it three months? Okay. So I know for you, you sit down ahead of time at least like 10 weeks in advance. So a month and a two and a half months. So you’re you know, right? So you’re accommodating for that. Okay.
Mandy York (02:11.926)
Yeah. 10 weeks. Yeah.
Mandy York (02:26.914)
Yes. Yep.
But when things pop up, I’m much less likely to cancel a class or call in a substitute than to just work around whatever my work schedule is. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (02:39.171)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (02:43.863)
Right, which I think is a recipe for burnout. We both talked about that. If that’s kind of your mode of operation. I’m also thinking about the private lesson instructors. if, I mean, I’ve mentioned that I don’t really teach private lessons anymore, but if you are the studio owner and you’re spending a lot of time teaching private lessons, well, that’s also…
Mandy York (02:49.262)
It can be. It can be.
John Kozicki (03:13.217)
lost income that you’re thinking about. know, wait, how do I reschedule these all these private lesson students so that I can take time off and what if they can’t reschedule and the path of least resistance is well maybe I’ll just give them a credit for that or maybe the parents will request well we can’t work out this schedule thing can we just have a credit you know and then then on top of wanting to just take some time off you’re also losing income.
Mandy York (03:16.097)
yeah.
John Kozicki (03:42.381)
And that sucks. Yeah, yeah. So I was, I was this morning thinking about all the things that I’m doing this week to prepare for a week off. And there’s actually a lot. But I also realized that in in sort of thinking back,
Mandy York (03:42.722)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (04:09.432)
to like an earlier version of myself and a little bit of myself right now in this planning stage, what I’m kind of doing is managing my anxiety, managing my worries.
Mandy York (04:21.56)
Yeah. Yes. That is a great way of putting it.
John Kozicki (04:23.296)
is, is it? Well, yeah, it’s what if, right? What if this happens while I’m gone? What if this happens while I’m gone? And those are all like, really, that’s coming from like my fears, right? My inner fears. What do you feel the same? Is that do you feel like it’s anxiety? Or what do think it is going into a vacation?
Mandy York (04:50.156)
Yeah, I do feel the same. It’s anxiety. It’s the, what if this and, what if that happens or what if so and so forgets this or yeah, all of the, cause I’m ready at a moment’s notice to handle any situation, but not all of my staff are. Yeah.
John Kozicki (05:04.64)
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And I think you are probably like that because you just you just know anything that happens. You have to deal with it. You have to take care of it. So it’s it’s not even a question of like, who do I ask? It’s just OK. Time to solve the problem. Yeah. And I understand that that worry.
you know, what if. So my thought is, at least for myself, if I can start to identify what my core anxieties are, then that helps me to sort of peel away the layers of the onion and find out like, well, what is really, what am I afraid of? What’s my fear? And then I can address my fear. And from there, then I have like a really specific thing.
that I can think about and I can plan for, or I can build a system or like a mini plan when I’m gone. Hey, if this thing happens, because yeah, sure, there’s gonna be other things that might even come up that I’m not even thinking about, but the things that I’m not thinking about don’t cause fear or anxiety. It’s literally like the what ifs, right?
Mandy York (06:28.14)
Yes. Mm hmm. Totally.
John Kozicki (06:30.68)
Do you, I’ve got some specifics, some specific fears in my studio that as I’m getting ready to go on vacation that I’ll share. Do you have anything specific that you’re willing, willing to put out there?
Mandy York (06:45.23)
Well, specifically, like in this case, I’m going to be gone for a week, right? And I have one, one day of classes that I teach. All right. So besides all of the administrative stuff, there’s one day that I teach and I’ve had to call in a substitute for that day. What if the substitute gets sick or gets in a car accident? Right. Okay. Then what? I did.
John Kozicki (06:54.936)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (07:02.222)
Okay.
John Kozicki (07:07.822)
yeah, you went kind of dark like right away.
Mandy York (07:15.362)
Hey, or flat tire. mean, come on. I’m not nothing major. I’m not getting dark, John. But like, but what if they can’t get to the class, right? Then it’s like, you know, you’ve, I’ve already put in my plan B having the substitute come in. What’s plan C? Right. That kind of thing.
John Kozicki (07:16.95)
Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
John Kozicki (07:30.127)
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. So that’s a good one. One of my fears as I’m getting ready to go on vacation. As you know, Mandy, there is a very popular restaurant in town that is right above my studio right above my lesson studio. And on occasion, they they’re
Mandy York (07:49.39)
yes, I know.
John Kozicki (07:58.351)
been some leaks from the restaurant upstairs, whether that’s like from their plumbing, or sometimes it’s just as simple as like, you know, they spilled some water on the floor and it happened to sort of work its way through and drip down. like some of my instructors will hear like, drip, drip, or a student will say, I just got wet.
Mandy York (08:23.304)
Yes!
John Kozicki (08:26.894)
And now it doesn’t happen a lot, but it’s just one of those things. Like it happens sometimes. And when it does, I’m usually the one to kind of jump in and say like, okay, well, let’s do this. Let’s switch over to this room or let’s get a bucket or let me call the owner upstairs and we’ll figure it out. And it’s usually a pretty simple fix for me because I’ve dealt with it enough times.
I know it’s almost like I already have a system for it. It’s just not written down or like anything because it’s not something that happens that often. But that’s one of my fears. What if when I’m gone on vacation, the restaurant starts to leak on a student?
Mandy York (09:17.57)
Obviously.
Yep. hear you. I’ve, and I mean, I have no reason to think this, but there’s no restaurant in my building. There’s a barber in some office space, but, I’ve totally worried about the building catching on fire. Have you ever done that? I’ll admit that’s kind of dark, but gosh, what if.
John Kozicki (09:23.064)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (09:39.79)
Well, yeah, there is a restaurant right above me. you know, yeah, another one of my fears, again, doesn’t happen often. But I’ve got one instructor who has to travel a decent distance to get to work. And
Mandy York (09:47.062)
Yeah, there’s always a what if.
John Kozicki (10:08.469)
It’s in Michigan, it’s construction season. It causes problems with travel and commuting and it can just sorta happen. And so one of my fears is what if, what if that instructor is late? Normally, if I’m at the studio, it’s like a simple fix, right? I know what to do to talk to the student. I know what to do to talk to.
the parent.
You know, I’ve got plans in place. If my instructor’s late, I can smooth everything over. No big deal, right? But what if I’m gone?
Mandy York (10:49.666)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (10:55.529)
Student is sitting there in the waiting area, maybe dropped off by the parent. Instructor is late. Normally when the instructor’s late, they’ll text me, right? So instructor texts me, I’m in Maine. You know, what am I supposed to do? You know, I’m on vacation. So yeah, that’s one of my fears.
Mandy York (11:13.486)
Yeah.
Mandy York (11:23.256)
Yes, these are real. are valid, right? Valid fears. So what do do about it?
John Kozicki (11:27.565)
Mm hmm. Well, so glad you asked. Well, I know. So again, that’s me identifying like here are the what ifs. Here’s the what ifs that I’m thinking about. These are the things that making me anxious. These are what I what I’m worried about. So I know. OK, well, what am I going to do? I’m going to real quick write down and give it to my admin.
maybe provide it to all of the instructors. Hey, if the restaurant happens to leak on you while I’m gone, probably won’t, but here’s what you should do, right? Here are the steps you can take. Similarly, hey, instructor who has a long drive during construction season in Michigan, if you’re going, you know, if it looks like you’re gonna be late, don’t text me. Text, you know.
text this person or text this other person and I’ll give them the procedure so that they can sort of jump in and do the things that I would normally do, which aren’t really hard, right? It’s not like they’re these crazy involved steps. It’s just someone has to do something. Yeah.
Mandy York (12:35.916)
Right? Yeah.
Mandy York (12:43.918)
Yep. You have to put it on someone else’s radar instead of it being on you. And you don’t want to get that text while you’re on vacation. You know, it’s not a big deal. You could turn around and text somebody else like, Hey, just so you know, so and so is running late. Will you let the student know they’re probably sitting in the lobby? But you don’t want to have to do that because then you’re going to worry about it too. At least I am really good.
John Kozicki (12:47.787)
Yeah. Right.
John Kozicki (12:53.344)
I don’t.
John Kozicki (13:10.284)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (13:11.16)
what’s going on over there. I hope they show up. I hope everyone’s okay. Whatever. I’d rather come back and have them say something like, yeah, everything went great. Joey was late one day, but you know, we took care of it and it was no big deal. Right? That’s what you want to hear. You don’t want to like catch wind while you’re on vacation and have it on your mind and worry. Cause it’ll be fine. Like you said, these aren’t, these aren’t catastrophic situations. Someone else just has to be.
John Kozicki (13:27.099)
Exactly.
John Kozicki (13:33.089)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (13:38.774)
Right.
Mandy York (13:40.908)
in charge of them while you’re out.
John Kozicki (13:42.613)
Yeah, yeah. So what are you doing to prepare right now for your vacation? know, like what are you doing to make sure that everyone is ready and knows what to do?
Mandy York (13:54.904)
Yeah.
I document things, right? So kind of like you said, here is the, landlord’s number, the, two neighbors within the building that we’re in kind of in like this mini mall type. here’s our neighbors. They’re great resources. If you need help with anything, their contact information. and then my, you know, I think it’s important. It’s great to have like a.
John Kozicki (14:00.138)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (14:28.04)
like a, a second hand, like someone that you can rely on, right? And my admin is awesome. So I trust her. She, and throughout the last month or so, as things come up, just knowing that I’m going on vacation, I’ll say to her like, Hey, cause we spend time in the office together. Hey, so, you know, this is how I do this. If it comes up while I’m gone, just always feeding her that kind of information. And then she knows while I’m gone, like,
John Kozicki (14:32.257)
Mm-hmm, yeah.
John Kozicki (14:51.927)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (14:56.876)
She’s kind of on call. So if anything comes up, she’s got all the keys. has, it always has access to the database and contact information. If that instructor is late or has a flat tire, my admin will know and she can turn around and easily contact all the families. No one’s going to, no one’s going to show up to an empty studio.
John Kozicki (15:11.499)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (15:18.389)
Right.
Yeah, which is a much bigger job for your situation than when I was talking about what if my instructor is late and that instructor has a private lesson student won. you’ve got like 10 families like waiting at the door. Yeah.
Mandy York (15:37.068)
Yeah. Yes.
Mandy York (15:41.9)
Yes.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, so that is why that’s more of a fear and Good to have someone with keys to the kingdom that can reach out to everybody if she needs to
John Kozicki (15:54.677)
Right. Now, for me, I know that, so we have got a slightly larger staff. So I also know that, hey, I’ve got these handful of instructors who have been with me for long enough that they just know how to jump in and sort of take care of things too.
which is really great. So maybe these less experienced instructors or the newer instructors who might be having some issues or some problems, just talk to these other guys, talk to these other folks, because they’re going to be able to help you out. Because you’re right, we don’t want to get those texts, because it’s going to take us out of the moment. And like you said, we’re going to worry. I know for me, if I got a text like that, I would then just…
kind of be on edge still that anxiety would come back, right? Okay, well, what’s going on? Do I text back? Do I not text back? Do I text someone else to make sure that they’re stepping in and hey, this is what’s going on? Did this person talk to you? Yeah. And then my family’s like, what are you doing? Right?
Mandy York (16:52.622)
Yeah.
Mandy York (16:56.204)
Yeah.
Mandy York (17:05.24)
Mm-hmm.
Right. You just want to be able to trust that everyone’s, you know, carrying on without you and getting, getting things done. You want to be able to trust your staff. Yeah.
John Kozicki (17:20.672)
Yes. Okay, we are, so I know for me this week, I’m literally just kind of every day I’m sort of thinking about, okay, what am I doing today? Is there anything that’s happening today that next week someone else is going to need to take care of or someone’s gonna be aware of? So I’m just every day I’m sort of creating, I’ve got a list, I’m just taking some quick notes. And then I’ll compile all of that.
and email it to all the appropriate people, right? My admin, I’ve got two bands that I’m coaching, so I’m gonna make sure that those are taken care of with the subs, they know what they’re doing. We wanna avoid surprises.
Mandy York (18:09.858)
Yes. Yep. No surprises. No thanks.
John Kozicki (18:11.276)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Do you do an outgoing, like automatic email or anything for the phones?
Mandy York (18:22.05)
You know, I don’t do anything for the phones because someone will be there to check messages. I will do that for my email. Thanks for the reminder. I’m bad about that. Like, I should do that when I take like a long weekend or something. It’s been a while since I’ve taken a whole week. Yeah, it’s been a while. I need to do that for next week. Will you do it? Yeah.
John Kozicki (18:28.565)
Okay.
John Kozicki (18:34.739)
yeah.
John Kozicki (18:42.411)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (18:48.054)
Yeah, because I will, yeah. And I also know I’m going to be checking email.
Mandy York (18:55.866)
I know, I’m gonna try not to.
John Kozicki (18:58.06)
yeah, I’m probably going to be checking email just, just because I, I suck. I have that. Yeah. Yeah.
Mandy York (19:06.06)
Yeah, it’s really hard not to.
Mandy York (19:12.128)
And this is, you were talking in the beginning about how hard it is to get away and how you’ve avoided getting away just because it was more, it took more effort to do it. And I have, I’ve totally done that before. Like, I’ll take my computer with me, you know, and, or I’ve said like, you know, to my employees, like, I’m going to be out, you know, the next three days or something.
John Kozicki (19:21.323)
Right.
John Kozicki (19:39.265)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (19:39.321)
Well, I’m never like I tell myself I’m out. I’m taking these next two days off to do this. I never do. I always check the email. I always take the computer. I do not think I’m taking my computer this time. Yeah. Yeah. I think that I am not going to. That’s kind of a noncommittal statement, but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to. I’ll check email with my phone.
John Kozicki (19:51.5)
big step.
John Kozicki (19:57.686)
Okay.
John Kozicki (20:04.531)
Okay, I don’t have my work email on my phone.
Mandy York (20:09.526)
So that’s how you set a boundary. That’s good. Hmm. Okay. I’m not going to take my computer so I can just quick check email and leave any like.
John Kozicki (20:10.663)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mandy York (20:24.344)
database scheduling stuff to the admin while I’m gone. Yeah, I think that’s what I’m
John Kozicki (20:32.819)
I probably should, I should train myself to not take the laptop, but I know I’m gonna, I know I’m gonna, and I know I’m gonna end up checking email, but I will, I will put an auto reply or auto responder. You know, I’m out of town because again, going back to, want to avoid surprises. What I don’t want to happen and you know, I’ve got for like leads and like new inquiries, most of that stuff.
Mandy York (20:40.451)
Yeah.
Mandy York (20:46.99)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (21:02.251)
is I’ve got a lot of automations through my email software. But what we don’t want is that surprise of no response for a week, you know, and then I get back to it after a week and and I say, hey, sorry, I was out of town. But by the time that happens, if it’s someone who doesn’t know, they could already be sort of annoyed and irritated that hey,
Mandy York (21:15.031)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (21:31.978)
Why didn’t you get back with me? It’s been a week. So I think the the autoresponder while maybe a little bit annoying for the recipient, at least provides the information and says, Hey, I’m going to be out of town. If you need immediate assistance, contact this person. Otherwise, I’ll get back with you when I get back. So then there’s no surprises. There’s no like sitting there in that waiting pattern.
like wondering what’s going on over there, right? Yeah.
Mandy York (22:04.31)
Yeah, yeah, that’s kind of twofold too, because if it’s a prospective student, you don’t want that to leave that bad impression. Right. And then I think about in my case too, sometimes families will email me with a question that Ash, that my admin could easily answer. So if you have that in your response, they’ll shoot off an email to the admin really quick, have their question answered right away. And it’s done.
John Kozicki (22:11.818)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (22:31.96)
they’re not going to get annoyed with you and you don’t have to deal with it when you get back.
John Kozicki (22:35.209)
Yes. So we want to avoid surprises for clients. Also, we want to avoid surprises for our staff, right? We want to give them the info that they need so that they don’t feel that same anxiety. Like we don’t want to transfer our anxiety onto everyone else, right? Like I was thinking about the email thing, right? So what if I didn’t create an autoresponder?
Mandy York (22:56.568)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (23:04.235)
And then someone was like, well, they’re not replying to my email. I should call. And they’re all in a huff when they call. And someone from my team answers and they get the brunt end of that. That’s kind of my fault. You know? Yeah. So yeah, so we don’t want to give those surprises to staff either. So, you know, I’m going to give like clear instructions. Hey, everyone.
Mandy York (23:18.306)
Yeah, good point. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (23:34.678)
Here’s what’s going on. I’m gonna be out of town starting this date. I’m gonna be back this date. If anything happens that’s out of the ordinary, here’s what you do, right? You talk to this person, you text this person. If something like this happens, do this. And I don’t have to anticipate everything, right? But at least if I can give them a go-to person, then they’re gonna feel better about
not feeling lost if something comes up.
Mandy York (24:07.98)
Yeah. Yep. Totally. do the same thing. I like to kind of prep or, or get ahead of the game, I guess, so that when I come back, maybe I’m not as buried as I, I could be. So I go through my calendar for next week and I do as much as I can do. So the week before a trip is so much work because we’re prepping the people around us. But then like, I had like an invoice and
John Kozicki (24:15.946)
Okay.
John Kozicki (24:22.347)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (24:37.23)
quarterly taxes do and you know, like some other stuff for next week. I did it all this week. You know, I kind of got ahead so that when I come back.
John Kozicki (24:39.263)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (24:46.207)
Same.
Mandy York (24:52.11)
I just kind of have to catch up on anything that I missed while I was out and I’m a little bit ahead. It’s like I do at home. I clean my house and I do my laundry so I’m not coming home to a messy house after vacation.
John Kozicki (25:00.135)
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, and that’s on top, like we both have families, right? So that’s on top of, we’re also preparing for leaving and going on vacation. Although in my situation, my wife is doing a lot of that preparation, so she’s saving me from it. How much of this, I was thinking about, is this culturally more a uniquely American thing, like this workaholism and…
Mandy York (25:13.762)
Yes.
Mandy York (25:34.294)
Hey, I’m under the impression that it is, you know, even just talking about taking, checking our email and taking our, our laptops with us on vacation.
John Kozicki (25:34.475)
cuz
Okay.
Mandy York (25:47.96)
That is that that seems like an American thing to me, right? We can never get away. We’re always connected.
John Kozicki (25:51.486)
Yeah.
I wonder because…
Like it’s standard for Americans to take like a week off, right? A year, a week. That’s it. And I know in other countries, that’s like only a week. What? Even when I went on my honeymoon, went to St. Lucia and there were quite a few other people from England, from Ireland.
Mandy York (26:05.804)
Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah.
Mandy York (26:13.836)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (26:29.006)
And they were like, yeah, we’re here for two weeks. And I was like, two weeks? That’s amazing. Right. And I was, you know, we’re pretty young, early in our careers, didn’t get a lot of vacation time. So I wonder how much, maybe we should have our international listeners, like, email us to verify like, dude, is this an American thing? This workaholism? Because I know we have international listeners. So I don’t want this to be totally lost on them. And they’re like, what?
Mandy York (26:35.388)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (26:58.068)
What are you talking about?
Mandy York (26:59.342)
Yes, they’re better prepared than us and already have these things in place. Yeah. I mean, two weeks. Wouldn’t you like at the, towards the end of that two weeks, just kind of, I would get like really itchy. Like, my gosh, I have to get back.
John Kozicki (27:05.129)
Maybe so.
John Kozicki (27:17.556)
I don’t know, I’ve never taken two weeks off. Yeah.
Mandy York (27:18.85)
You don’t know. I feel like I would not that I want to be that way, but I don’t know. And as small as a small business, it’s all so personal, right? Like it’s your, it’s your, it’s your baby. It’s your small business, you know,
John Kozicki (27:32.851)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (27:36.997)
Exactly, exactly. Yeah. So some of that fear, I think, I think the fear is like, well, this is our livelihood. So we do need to protect that. And we do need to make sure everything is going to be fine. But, you know, there’s a little bit of that control freak that’s taking over, it’s going to be fine. It’s a week, right? I don’t think anything too outrageous would happen where
Mandy York (27:40.716)
We like to be there.
Mandy York (27:58.541)
Yeah. Yep.
John Kozicki (28:05.672)
other people can’t handle it. But yeah, I think the key is being prepared and just planning and addressing what your own personal fears and anxieties are. And I love that you are, you’re thinking about getting ahead, not just finishing up what you’re doing this week, but getting ahead and taking care of those tasks. That’s a great tip.
Mandy York (28:07.18)
No, no.
John Kozicki (28:31.368)
you know, what’s again, what’s worked really well for me this week is just every day, keeping a running list of these are the things right? Is this covered? Is this covered? Yeah.
Mandy York (28:43.406)
It’s important to take breaks. And you kind of mentioned in my case too, I schedule pretty far out, know, semester to semester. We schedule like two semesters at a time, really. So it’s important for you to build time off into your schedules as lessons teachers, as studio owners. It’s really important to build that time off. And there’s, we…
John Kozicki (29:02.025)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (29:06.932)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy York (29:11.246)
I don’t if we talked a lot about this before, but you know, pricing structures, whether you’re paying per lesson or paying monthly, like build these, build these vacations into your pricing structure too. Right. Maybe that’s another episode, but as we’re talking about vacation, think about that too. This is, it’s really important to get these breaks. makes you a better teacher, better studio owner, better boss. and
John Kozicki (29:22.76)
Mmm. It’s a great idea.
Mandy York (29:40.632)
Think about a big picture too, over your whole schedule and how your pricing, how your pay structure works for those vacations.
John Kozicki (29:48.671)
Yeah, love it. Love it. Words of encouragement. You can do it. Take the time off. Well, let’s wrap this one up. Thanks for listening. We’ll see you next time, Mandy. Bye.
Mandy York (29:56.031)
Yeah.
Mandy York (30:02.444)
Sounds good. Thanks, John.
