In this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) and Mandy York (Music Time of Milford) explore practical ways music instructors and school owners can use AI. When it comes to “busy work,” AI can save time—polishing newsletters, analyzing data, automating spreadsheets, and creating instructor training materials—while keeping authenticity intact. So you can spend more time focused on creating a great experience for your students!
John and Mandy discuss:
- How to train AI on your own writing voice so it can authentically create emails and marketing copy
- How to avoid common traps with using AI, like falling down rabbit holes, and feature bloat that create but don’t actually improve your lesson studio
- When it’s smarter to refine existing systems in your music lesson business instead of adding new ones, and how AI can do the work for you.
Listeners get actionable ideas for using AI responsibly in lesson studios for marketing, attracting students, and improving retention. John and Mandy encourage targeted, time-saving uses while staying cautious about over-reliance.
Rock School Proprietor is a podcast for independent music school owners and lesson studio operators looking to attract more students and create a sustainable business. New episodes drop Wednesdays at RockSchoolProprietor.com and on all podcast streaming platforms.
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Episode Transcript:
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John Kozicki (00:01.075)
Welcome to Rock School Proprietor Podcast. My name’s John Kazicki.
Mandy (00:05.291)
And I’m Mandy York.
John Kozicki (00:07.643)
And we’re gonna talk about AI today, Mandy.
Mandy (00:12.093)
Yay. you know it’s my favorite topic. It gives totally. Yes. It’s just such a there’s such a love hate relationship. I just I don’t think I really know how to feel about it yet. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (00:14.158)
How are you feeling about that?
John Kozicki (00:18.306)
He said sarcastically.
John Kozicki (00:30.254)
Mmm. Do you feel like I’m just really just exploring here? Do you feel like you should feel more comfortable with using I AI? Or do you feel like you you’re like, because I mean you’ve told me you do not use it much. Do you feel like maybe your
Falling behind I don’t know, I I I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but how are you feeling about it?
Mandy (01:02.283)
No, yeah, that’s really interesting because I have always considered myself to be a pretty tech savvy person, you know, like you know, I can I can utilize spreadsheets, I build a website, I you know, I I all the things. Like I can figure stuff out pretty well and I use technology to my advan advantage in business and and in life.
John Kozicki (01:11.054)
Mm, mm-hmm.
Mandy (01:29.515)
So I would say I guess that this is the one place that I have not dug in, I have not explored, I don’t use regularly. So for once I do kind of feel behind, behind the times. That’s strange. That’s a strange feeling for me to have.
John Kozicki (01:37.389)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (01:46.953)
It I I think it’s because when we talk about AI, and and I should also frame at least my purpose for this conversation, is how we can use AI in our businesses more on the management and maybe administrative side. We’ve done episodes on like how will AI change.
Mandy (02:07.885)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (02:12.716)
music lessons, like the act of giving music lessons and education and that side of it. I’m not so much going into that, I think, with with my thought processes here. But I will say that the AI changes things so rapidly and is changing so rapidly. I do understand how
you i it is possible to feel behind.
Mandy (02:41.621)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (02:43.608)
Perfect example. Remember a couple of years ago? Ma I mean maybe not even a couple of years ago, but the speculation was, the idea of being a prompt engineer is a viable future career for someone. You remember that?
Mandy (03:01.202)
Mm, yes. Yeah. No.
John Kozicki (03:03.456)
And that is not a thing anymore. That like AI eliminated that job even before it became a job.
Mandy (03:11.553)
Yes, weird to think about that.
John Kozicki (03:12.802)
Yeah. And that I think is how fast everything is changing. So I don’t think you’re alone. I’ve felt a little behind with AI at times too.
And I don’t remember which episode number it was, but when I spoke with Brian Carrion about his use of AI and he’s got he’s using Claude and linking it with his his studio management software and like he’s got all these integrations and I was like, my gosh, is that what we’re gonna have to do? And
Mandy (03:54.133)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (03:56.597)
More power to Brian because he’s making it work for him in a great way. And that’s a good episode to listen to if I think someone is a little bit more tech savvy. But I also want to approach this more from a perspective of maybe the rest of us, I guess. If that makes sense. Okay. so
Mandy (04:12.607)
Yes. Yeah. That’s what I need. Absolutely. Yeah.
John Kozicki (04:20.75)
Maybe I also listened to I listened to our previous one of our previous episodes and which was about AI, episode 33, future proofing music lessons in an age of AI. So we released that one in January of 2025. We’re recording this about a year and a half later. And I would say things have changed drastically.
since then. that one I remember I it I was feeling kind of more in a dark place when we recorded that one. I don’t know if you remember that.
Mandy (05:02.733)
yeah, I remember. Yeah.
John Kozicki (05:04.558)
And I where I think where that kind of darkness was coming from was more about, man, if we go online and everything is fake, then what good is it? Right? Yeah.
Mandy (05:16.535)
Yeah. What is Yeah. Mm. Where’s the yeah, the human touch and what’s real anymore, for sure. Yeah.
John Kozicki (05:25.996)
Yes. So I think it might be worth I I listened to that this morning just kind of in prep. So I think if any of this resonates with listeners, then I think that might be a good reference point too, because I do think what you just said, the human touch and what we advocate for in our businesses, the human interaction and like all these things that are yeah, all these things that are human, I think still become more and more valuable. But we’ve said all of that before.
Mandy (05:44.493)
community.
Mandy (05:48.535)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (05:55.563)
So, quick references. In prepping for this, I found a Pew Research study from 2021 to 2025, How Americans View AI and its impact on people and society. It says US adults are generally pessimistic about AI’s effect on people’s ability to think creatively and form meaningful relationships.
53% say AI will worsen people’s ability to think creatively compared to 16% who say it will improve this. 50% say they’re more concerned than excited about the increased use of AI in daily daily life, up from 37% in 2021. So I I don’t I I think
John Kozicki (06:49.356)
When you go online, can you identify stuff that’s AI, do you think, for the most part?
Mandy (06:57.461)
Feel like it’s getting harder. You know, but but yeah, there’s definitely some some stuff. And you know what’s funny? My kids do it. They’ll say like, my gosh, mom, that’s totally AI, you know, generated. Yes. Yeah. It’s it’s all around us.
John Kozicki (06:59.778)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (07:09.93)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (07:16.15)
Which is viewed as a negative.
Mandy (07:18.411)
Yep. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (07:20.396)
When your kids say, that’s AI, or when when we see something and we’re like, I think that’s AI, it we sort of write it off as a negative. all of this I think is important when we consider how to use AI in our businesses.
Mandy (07:23.231)
Yes. They’re saying it in an
John Kozicki (07:44.682)
Agree? Disagree? Yeah.
Mandy (07:45.617)
Agreed. Yes. No. I I would agree with these statistics that you’ve that you’ve given put out there.
John Kozicki (07:50.602)
yeah, because it all suggests that there’s a growing wariness about AI. but at the same time, like it’s it’s also sort of known everyone’s using it. Right. except maybe you.
Mandy (08:08.407)
Yeah. Yep. Everybody, for sure, yeah.
Not so much. Yeah.
John Kozicki (08:15.247)
I did want to share a funny story about my daughter to put things in perspective. She’s a new driver, as you know, and she had her license for about a week. And my wife was out of town, so you know, I was single parenting for the that week with the kids, and my daughter was driving herself to and from school and she had practice after school.
Mandy (08:28.288)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (08:45.087)
And I think at I I want to say it was, yeah, I got a text from her that day. Hey, I’m almost out of gas. And I was like, okay, what does that mean? And she’s like, 30 miles until empty. And I thought, okay, well, you can still drive home. We’ll take care of this. Cause she also didn’t have any money, right? She’s like, I’m out of gas. I don’t have any money. you can drive home. We’ll take care of this when I get home.
So I’m on my way home from work and she calls me. I need $10. I’m at the gas station. I’m like, okay, what happened to our plan? She said, Well, I was really worried that I would just run out of gas. So I drove to the gas station, which was the opposite direction from where we live. So she’s now further away. And then I said, Well, okay.
Mandy (09:27.98)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (09:45.4)
I I thought it was th thirty miles before you were you were out of gas. How like w what happened? How did you get that info? She said she took a picture of the gas gauge, put it in chat GPT, and asked asked how far she can drive before she’s out of gas.
Mandy (10:05.991)
my gosh. Like the fact that she even thought to do that is wild to me. I wouldn’t like that’s for some, you know, younger generations, it’s like a first thought. Well, I’ll just ask you Well no. Yeah. Right.
John Kozicki (10:10.905)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (10:19.449)
But also I don’t know how wise that is.
So there was a little bit of a learning experience there. Maybe not the best use case for AI, right? but yeah, so so that speaks to that that worry about people being able to think creatively and maybe critically, I think. Yeah.
Mandy (10:27.933)
Yes. Mm mm mm mm. Yeah.
Mandy (10:46.551)
Yes. Yep. Yep. Just mm-hmm. Just plugging it in instead of asking the expert or like you said, thinking critically like Don’t our don’t our cars usually tell us too how many miles That’s what I go by Yep.
John Kozicki (11:00.014)
Yes.
They they do. She didn’t she didn’t see that in the car and new driver, right? Not sure where to find that information. okay, so then the big question is, well, what can we do as music school owners, as music lesson providers? How can we use AI effectively, maybe to speed up processes, efficiently?
Mandy (11:12.033)
That’s so funny.
John Kozicki (11:33.865)
in our businesses because yeah, it’s almost like there’s no end to what we could do with AI, but like what should we do? It’s there’s a little bit of overwhelm.
Mandy (11:49.217)
Yes.
Mandy (11:52.851)
Now will you tell me how you are using AI right now? ‘Cause I really wanna know.
John Kozicki (11:56.304)
yeah. The I think we talked a little bit about how you use it. And I think the go-to for a lot of people in our situation is marketing materials like copywriting, image creation, maybe, right?
Mandy (12:15.245)
Happy. Mm.
Mandy (12:21.559)
I stay away from that, but but yeah, I can see that.
John Kozicki (12:23.501)
Yeah. I generally stay away from the image creation stuff too, for the most part. copywriting because it’s it takes a lot of time.
Mandy (12:39.447)
Yes. Mm-hmm. I’m
John Kozicki (12:41.259)
And when you see how quickly sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
Mandy (12:46.465)
Well, yeah, like I’m not a writer, right? So, one way I use it is in my my newsletters. if I’m, you know, writing a blurb for my newsletters that I I put out every week, like I could take a really long time, and I have, I’ll take a really long time writing in a short article, you know, going back and editing, and I can plug my draft into Chat GPT.
John Kozicki (12:49.091)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy (13:16.511)
and have it polish it for me, you know, and and even take that as a second draft and take what ChatGPT gives me and clean it up even more, you know, give it my own voice. So it saves so much time. It like how can I not how can I not do that? Because the content is still mine. I’m not asking it to, you know, write an article about this. I’m saying here’s my writing, polish it.
John Kozicki (13:16.548)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
John Kozicki (13:31.823)
Sure.
John Kozicki (13:36.079)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (13:46.863)
Yeah. I think that’s a smart use case. going back to the idea of copywriting and marketing, this is like it’s those are very public-facing aspects of our business. So if we are still living in this this world, which I mean we are, where people are wary of AI and quick to write it off, if they’re
Mandy (13:47.713)
Yeah. Mm.
Mandy (14:02.509)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (14:17.52)
Like if I’m reading something and I’m like
Mandy (14:22.347)
Mm. Yeah, yeah. Totally. It’s a big turn off.
John Kozicki (14:22.714)
This is so AI. I write it off. You know, it’s like there’s n like, yeah, I don’t wanna interact with that. I don’t want to engage with it because it doesn’t feel authentic. And I know both of us were very big into that authenticity, building trust with our clients and and our community. so I think you you’re using it in a good way where you’re you’re saying, Okay
Here are my here are my ideas. Can you create a draft? Then you read it with a discerning eye and you make edits. So even that like is going to save some time.
could you Yeah.
Mandy (15:07.085)
To me that’s what it’s all about. That’s what I want AI for to save me time.
John Kozicki (15:11.832)
Right. Yeah. Good job. Good job on that. so I the and I think that is the trick. Like if you’re using AI for writing copy or editing your copy, before you push it out there, you don’t want it to look like it was written by AI.
Because someone who someone who reads it and interprets it as AI, that’s a bad look.
Mandy (15:46.286)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think that it can it can sow distrust, right? You you put something else, put something out there, and then people are going to be skeptical the next time they see something from you. Right? Yeah. Bad luck.
John Kozicki (15:53.003)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (16:00.59)
Yeah. Yes. I think so. I think so. there I I’m sure there’s like a confirmation bias though. And what I mean by that is I’m sure there’s been plenty of things that I’ve read online and I didn’t know that they were in some way written by AI or helped along with AI.
So I don’t know about those cases, right? Because I didn’t recognize them as AI. And I think that, but that’s the sweet spot. That’s honestly, that’s probably the place we want to be if it comes to writing. yeah. So things that I’ve done, at least when it comes to writing, one, I have I’ve trained AI.
Mandy (16:40.492)
Yes.
John Kozicki (16:55.98)
On my writing style.
Mandy (16:58.317)
That is cool.
John Kozicki (16:59.426)
And I’ve like uploaded like twenty, thirty, forty, fifty samples of my writing so that it can learn how I write. but I have noticed even doing that, it still doesn’t get it totally right. It gets it closer. I still have to I still have to go in and I still have to edit and there’s still a lot of stuff that
Mandy (17:07.405)
Okay. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (17:28.632)
It it for me it hasn’t been just that simple. Like, here’s a bunch of my writing, write this thing for me, and then good to go. It just it hasn’t worked for me. I mean, if other people have done that, great. It’s just it doesn’t work for me. I and I end up giving it a lot of feedback also, so that it can hopefully learn. I’m jury’s still out on whether or not it is learning from my feedback, but I sort of view it as as an ongoing thing.
Mandy (17:52.727)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (17:59.089)
but yeah, it gets it close, but then I still have to make adjustments and still have to make edits. another use that I’ve found in terms of writing that’s been helpful is if I like for social media copy, like almost don’t it’s so tedious, right? We’re like slaves to this. Well you gotta post this many times and blah blah blah, and like
Mandy (18:19.927)
So tedious. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, totally. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (18:27.758)
Right. It’s like this recipe for like no one wants to do that, right? No one wants to do it. We feel forced into it because that’s what the algorithm is is telling us we have to do, and we are slaves to it. So, like, all right, well, maybe let’s use AI for that. But then the rub is like, well, people just gonna know that this is AI. It’s like this weird vicious circle. but one of the things I’ve done is I’ve taken
Mandy (18:32.234)
No.
John Kozicki (18:57.336)
I I’ve taken old some old social media posts and said, hey, give me two more versions of this written slightly different. Or give me a play on this that focuses on this aspect rather than that aspect. So there’s a jumping off point in context. I’ve found that generally I still have to edit again before it is to the point where I feel like yes, I can use this.
But that’s another thing that I’ve done.
Mandy (19:30.731)
Yeah. Yeah, that’s really smart. I
John Kozicki (19:33.806)
I don’t know if it’s saving time.
Mandy (19:37.718)
Mm, I mean, but if you’re getting like I mean, like you said, you’re you’re getting multiple versions of your message. That’s that’s saving time, right? That that is saving time. I like that idea. I would try that. And honestly, I don’t know that things are changing rapidly, but I’m never gonna put something out without probably making some tweaks before I do. It’s just the way it is. Yeah.
John Kozicki (19:47.365)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (20:02.221)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. The the and we’ve spent a lot of time talking about the the copywriting because I do think that because of how these LLMs work, it’s sort of geared toward generating language, right? Grad generating copy. So I I do think a lot of people are using it that way. where I’ve been able to
I think save time and effort in areas that are not marketing related are more fact-based things that generally just I kind of don’t care as much about in terms of the hitting an emotional trigger with with a reader, like job postings or job descriptions.
instructor agreements, studio policies. These would all be updates. I mean, I suppose you could source those things too. Hey, give me give me like a job description for a guitar instructor, blah blah blah. I don’t know. I’ve not tried it. I suppose you could do that. that I think is is a time saver because again that’s not
Mandy (21:10.562)
Yeah.
Mandy (21:18.423)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (21:28.705)
It’s not necessarily gonna be something that someone reads and is critical about like
Wait, you’re trying to trick me. This is written by AI in this job description, right?
Mandy (21:37.407)
Yeah. Yeah. It doesn’t take a creative touch for these things, right? You you don’t need to be creative. You need to like you said, they’re just fact based documents. Yeah. That’s a that’s very smart. I like that.
John Kozicki (21:48.429)
Yeah. Yeah.
So that’s been in in terms of the writing thing, that’s been one of the time savers for me. Analyzing data. Did you know? Did you know that you can analyze data in in Chat GPT or Cloud?
Mandy (22:03.073)
Yes.
Mandy (22:07.02)
I do
I I mean I know that, but I don’t know how, I have not. I’m I’m a spreadsheet girl, you know? Like I’m I I analyze and manipulate spreadsheets to to get the data that I’m looking for. How do you what do you do with Chat GPT?
John Kozicki (22:18.639)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (22:32.085)
well, for the record, I don’t use Chat GPT, I use Claude, but yeah. so I have I’ve I’ve used it and this takes a little bit work, a little bit of work on the front end when I did this, but I used it to show me what I was spending time on. Like I’ve for two weeks I was like, all right, well, what am I?
Mandy (22:34.761)
okay. Excuse me, excuse me?
John Kozicki (23:00.431)
What are the tasks that I’m doing over this two weeks? And so I just created a spreadsheet and and tracked it. and then I said, what am I spending the most most of my time on? Where can I where can I delegate some of these tasks that maybe are taking up time that I could otherwise be using for other things? You know, like that I found it sort of insightful because your day to day, at least in that case for me, I found that
day to day, I didn’t necessarily realize how much time I was spending on certain things until you have a couple weeks of data to look back on. And I suppose I could have sifted through that by myself looking at the spreadsheet and figured out. But you know, let the computer do it.
Mandy (23:49.942)
Yeah. That yeah, right. That’s kinda cool. It’s like hiring Claude to be your business consultant. Right? Great idea.
John Kozicki (23:56.976)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. other cases that I’ve used for well, just yesterday. I was just just for fun. I was analyzing download data for the podcast. Yeah. Like what insights can you show me? Here’s all my here’s all the download stats and I mean it was interesting. I you know, I’ve I’m sitting with it still, so I’m just still not sure.
how useful that is for me at this point other than like knowing. But yeah, that you could do that. I th I suppose I haven’t tried this, but I mean you could you could analyze
When are my busiest times of the year? When like what like what have you pulled data from your email campaigns and said like all right, what is resonating with people? I don’t know. There’s you could do stuff like that.
Mandy (24:54.145)
Yep. Yep. I pull data to look at like who’s who hasn’t registered in a semester or two, right? So that I can try to reach and and bring people back in or who is like a a summer family. They always come during the summer. Right. I kind of analyze that so that I really kind of target those people when we’re getting ready for summer registration and get them back in.
John Kozicki (25:06.479)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (25:15.894)
yeah.
Mandy (25:24.305)
And yeah, that’s just me like exporting data, sorting it, and figuring out on my own. I’m sure I’m sure AI could do it a lot faster for me. That’s a good way I could use it. Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (25:36.855)
Yeah. Maybe find some insights that you’re not thinking of too.
Mandy (25:41.216)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who was in a who was in a young, you know, early childhood program but might be and hasn’t been in class for a while but would fit into a K through second program. W show me those people. Cause I’m I’m really all about like analyzing the data to send like very specific, like targeted emails and
John Kozicki (25:58.021)
Mm, mm-hmm. Sure.
Mandy (26:10.859)
Touches to those people and s yeah. Hmm. Cool. Yeah.
John Kozicki (26:12.239)
Yeah. Yeah. You could do that. another another thing that I found super useful is when we plan concerts for my studio. There’s a lot of moving pieces. We’re talking about like groups of kids. Some kids have siblings in other bands in other groups. Some
Kids have siblings in the same band. We try and coordinate that. So, you know, they’re playing maybe back to back. And it’s a huge thing, right? And I found it really helpful. Like I’ve I’ve created over the years, I’ve created a spreadsheet to help me with that task. manually, it’s very hard. I’ve used, I’ve used AI to look at that spreadsheet.
Mandy (26:49.601)
Yeah.
Mandy (27:02.73)
yeah.
John Kozicki (27:08.129)
And give me unique formulas that otherwise I like I’m not an Excel expert, right? I’m sure like Excel Wiz kids could look at these things and say, like, we need this formula right here to give you this output that you want. But base level, I think most of us are like, okay, we know how to do autosum, we know how to do like the basic math functions.
Mandy (27:32.727)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (27:36.183)
It helped me do some really complex spreadsheet calculations. And I’ve now got that work down to like what used to take me maybe a couple hours to plan. Now I can do it in like twenty minutes.
Mandy (27:55.265)
That’s amazing. Totally worth it. Cool.
John Kozicki (27:56.664)
Yeah. So I and I like honestly wouldn’t have been able to do it on that spreadsheet without someone who knows Excel really well or getting this this info from AI. So
Mandy (28:13.335)
Yeah. I like it. I like it. Hmm. Okay. What else could I do? I like this brainstorming session. Now, tasks that take time. lesson planning. Lesson planning is very personal and like creative process. I don’t see myself using AI to lesson plan. I think that I don’t I mean I
John Kozicki (28:17.207)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (28:21.805)
Ha ha ha.
John Kozicki (28:31.715)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy (28:42.635)
I’m open to other ideas. I th I don’t think everyone maybe feels that way, but for me and what I do, I’m my lesson planning is very personal and creative. but I’m I’m doing some camps this summer. Okay. And I wonder about brainstorming ideas for like extra activities and here’s my theme and
John Kozicki (28:58.349)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy (29:11.041)
Here’s some of the songs I’m using. Here’s the age of the kids. I can see that as like a jumping off point for for lesson planning those kind of those those camps. Hmm.
John Kozicki (29:15.343)
Sure.
Uh-huh.
John Kozicki (29:23.309)
Yes. I’m glad you mentioned that because I think I think that I think that could be a good use case. but I I also have outlined here in my notes potential traps. And I I think that what you just mentioned also could be a potential trap. And the reason I say that is because you could spend all this time brainstorming and then in the end you’re
Mandy (29:30.123)
Yeah.
Mandy (29:37.517)
Let’s hear
John Kozicki (29:50.339)
You it’s really easy to go down weird rabbit holes. Right? Very easy to go down weird rabbit holes where you say, I want to try this thing. And then your obedient AI says, great, let’s do this. How about this? And then you’re like, I don’t know. What about this thing? Changing this there. And a few back and forths, backs and forths, and then you’ve got something that maybe lost.
Mandy (29:53.648)
yeah. Mm. Yes.
Mandy (30:15.415)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (30:19.81)
what you originally intended it to be. I mean, or maybe it’s something cooler. I’m not saying that like that couldn’t happen, but it’s very easy to spend a lot of time in this brainstorming process. And then in the end you’re like, was this a good idea? Or or you have this idea at the end and you’re like, okay, cool, let’s run with this.
Mandy (30:40.237)
That’s not what I was going for. Yeah.
John Kozicki (30:49.378)
But then you do have to implement it. And I mean, that’s just as hard as coming up with the idea. And if the implementation just doesn’t happen, then like you just spend all that time kind of creating, but never really implementing. So I think that’s a that’s a potential potential trap. so yeah, I even had that on like it literally says on my notes creating new processes.
Mandy (31:07.511)
Yes.
John Kozicki (31:18.584)
class offerings, lesson plans. It will give you something, is what I’m saying. It will. But whether or not in the end that’s going to be beneficial, not sure. Use with caution, I guess.
Mandy (31:25.015)
Yeah.
Mandy (31:35.979)
Yes. Good advice.
John Kozicki (31:38.326)
similarly, strategy help, like I’m having problems, I’m having this problem, help me work through it. And then you have this dialogue, right? This dialogue back and forth. In the end, if you don’t have like a real usable solution, potentially just kind of sucked up some time.
Mandy (32:02.519)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (32:07.321)
So
Mandy (32:07.533)
Yes. Okay. The rabbit hole. Yeah. I have not. Mm-mm. But you know, just sitting here brainstorming how how I could use it. I think maybe the key is being really specific in these things. Yeah. You know, like this is my this is my goal, this is what I want to do. I need s you know
John Kozicki (32:09.761)
Yeah. Thoughts on that? ‘Cause you haven’t done that, right?
John Kozicki (32:25.102)
Maybe.
Mandy (32:33.989)
I mean, just off the top of my head, what I’m thinking about right now is I I like to do a lot of games, like musical games. So I’ve got I’ve got a list that I love to use, but it would be great to grow it. I need games that, you know, we are working on, you know, triple rhythms or something like that and see I d I don’t know. I don’t know what is what’s out there. So I guess being very very specific
John Kozicki (32:40.131)
Mm-hmm.
John Kozicki (32:59.115)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy (33:04.223)
And not not going down the rabbit hole if it’s not giving me what I want. We’ll see. I’m gonna try it. I’m gonna report back to you about that.
John Kozicki (33:13.507)
Well, my big takeaway with how we use AI in our lesson studios is that it’s really easy to use AI to add, but adding isn’t necessarily always going to be better. And I think sometimes looking at what we do and and figuring out how do we subtract to make things better is sometimes more beneficial.
Mandy (33:15.597)
Mm.
John Kozicki (33:43.277)
Right, ’cause AI will give you things to add. It’ll say, yeah, do this, do this. But adding more complex, not necessarily always better.
Mandy (33:54.837)
For sure. Yeah.
Okay.
John Kozicki (33:58.723)
Are you are you convinced now? Are you are you feeling like, Yes, I’m gonna use AI in my business? Or are you still like, I don’t know.
Mandy (34:05.771)
Nah, I feel like it for what I’m using, it’s I I like it. Maybe I could use it a little more. I really like the idea of how you’re you are training, you know, training yours to give your your AI your voice. And I think that I attempting and but I think that that’s probably a good investment and things are always changing and getting better. So if you’re doing the work now, maybe who knows? It’ll just get better and better, maybe.
John Kozicki (34:21.953)
Attempting to train.
Mandy (34:36.517)
but yeah, I’m I’m gonna try a few things. I don’t wanna fall behind John. I don’t wanna I don’t I don’t wanna be that that old person that’s not I mean, I’m not gonna ask it about how many miles I have left in my tank. I’m not gonna go that far. But yeah, we can streamline a few a few processes in the office.
John Kozicki (34:44.585)
I know.
John Kozicki (34:53.454)
Ha ha ha.
John Kozicki (34:59.222)
Yeah, I mean I know people who swear by using it for therapy.
Mandy (35:04.685)
Ooh I man, there we talk about rabbit holes, therapy, relationships. There’s so there’s a lot out there.
John Kozicki (35:09.781)
Yeah.
John Kozicki (35:14.88)
Yeah, I don’t know. I’m I’m not sure I trust it enough there. I mean, but again, I know people who swear by it, so yeah.
Mandy (35:21.995)
Yeah. Like I said, I am most interested in having it help me save time. That’s what it’s about, right? It’s what it comes down to for me.
John Kozicki (35:30.925)
Right, right. Well, yeah, hopefully this has been helpful. And I’ll be totally transparent. I don’t feel like I’m not the AI guy. Yeah, I know to use this. I’m I’m I feel maybe marginally like further than you are in this, where where I’m still hesitant, I still question is this usable or is it just more stuff?
Mandy (35:35.073)
Yeah. Yeah.
Mandy (35:49.803)
Mm. Yeah.
John Kozicki (35:58.913)
Is it more content? Is it you know?
Mandy (35:58.958)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. You know, and is tell me what you think, but isn’t everyone just kind of trying to figure it out? Isn’t it isn’t that what this is? Like, as a business owner, I’m being sold stuff all the time. No one is selling me like, here’s how you use AI.
John Kozicki (36:10.443)
Mm-hmm.
Mandy (36:21.535)
And maybe just n not as
John Kozicki (36:21.57)
I I think it’s out there, but but it’s like it’s not it’s not there’s it’s not confirmed like yes, this is gonna be the wave of the future. I I feel like where we are with AI right now is where the internet was in the 90s. This is gonna be the most amazing thing in the world, you know, and maybe it is, right? I obviously the internet did change our lives. but I think time is going to tell how.
Mandy (36:32.428)
Yeah.
Mandy (36:39.486)
Sure.
John Kozicki (36:51.84)
AI changes our lives and and what how it’s going to be integrated. You know, there’s a lot of push and pull at this point. Like use AI for this, use AI for that. And only time’s gonna tell if those are going to be good use cases, I think. I don’t know. I like can’t tell the future. Yeah.
Mandy (37:09.623)
For sure. Yeah. Cool. Well, thanks. I enjoyed this.
John Kozicki (37:13.526)
All right. Well, good luck and good luck to our listeners. I mean, I would definitely say anyone who’s who’s using AI in ways in their studio that they feel is amazing and fantastic, yeah. Let us know because all about all about talking about it. And you know, I’ve been on the online groups and forums and
Mandy (37:31.179)
Yeah, share that.
John Kozicki (37:39.904)
A lot of people are saying, this is how I use it, this is what I do. And again, there’s almost as as many ways as you can think of to use it, you can use it. I’ve yet to be super blown away by it something that’s game changing. It’s more just like, yeah, that’s a little helpful. Or yeah, this makes more content. So that’s where I am.
Mandy (38:03.469)
Yeah. Cool. All right.
John Kozicki (38:08.214)
Right. Well we’ll wrap it up and we’ll talk to you next time. All right, bye.
Mandy (38:12.173)
Sounds good. Thanks, John.
